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Post by nautonnier on Mar 14, 2021 18:29:10 GMT
There is of course a NAM but nobody calls it that. It is the track of Ferrel cells that are currently a long way 'south' of where they would normally track. Hence the snow and rain in North Africa instead of southern Europe. I would suspect that the two will be linked as they are almost certainly driven by the strength of the Hadley cells. So if North Africa is getting rain/snow then South Australia should also be getting rain and snow.
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Post by flearider on Mar 14, 2021 21:12:50 GMT
read today that the arctic is getting colder .. hence the big sways over the usa .. wont be long till it grows and covers us all
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Post by nonentropic on Mar 14, 2021 22:36:07 GMT
Agree with that Naut.
The width of the Hadley cell is defined by the solar intensity. So in winter when the convergent zone is say 20 Deg south then the divergent zone lands somewhat south of the Sahara if it cold it's even further south so the rain north of the divergent sits over the Sahara.
The SSW's etc are just further wobbles to contend with or confusers.
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 15, 2021 3:29:17 GMT
There is of course a NAM but nobody calls it that. It is the track of Ferrel cells that are currently a long way 'south' of where they would normally track. Hence the snow and rain in North Africa instead of southern Europe. I would suspect that the two will be linked as they are almost certainly driven by the strength of the Hadley cells. So if North Africa is getting rain/snow then South Australia should also be getting rain and snow. And if the Italians had the testicular fortitude of their ancestors, they'd be back in the old N African grain belts of the Republic/Empire fighting off Chinese.
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Post by Ratty on Mar 15, 2021 5:09:45 GMT
read today that the arctic is getting colder .. hence the big sways over the usa .. wont be long till it grows and covers us all Ever the optimist, eh Flea? 
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Post by nautonnier on Mar 15, 2021 15:12:38 GMT
read today that the arctic is getting colder .. hence the big sways over the usa .. wont be long till it grows and covers us all The warning for UK comes when Greenland Ice meets Iceland and you can walk (well langlauf) from Reykjavik to Greenland. The USA will know it has a problem when you need to get to the upper floors of the Empire State Building to see over the snow
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 15, 2021 18:06:05 GMT
read today that the arctic is getting colder .. hence the big sways over the usa .. wont be long till it grows and covers us all The warning for UK comes when Greenland Ice meets Iceland and you can walk (well langlauf) from Reykjavik to Greenland. The USA will know it has a problem when you need to get to the upper floors of the Empire State Building to see over the snow Chuck Schumer should get the bottom position in perpetuity. A position of honor for a cold bastard.
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Post by nautonnier on Mar 15, 2021 18:26:39 GMT
The warning for UK comes when Greenland Ice meets Iceland and you can walk (well langlauf) from Reykjavik to Greenland. The USA will know it has a problem when you need to get to the upper floors of the Empire State Building to see over the snow Chuck Schumer should get the bottom position in perpetuity. A position of honor for a cold bastard. A chaise longue in Central Park would work
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Post by nonentropic on Mar 15, 2021 18:32:29 GMT
I have a desire for a 0.6C fall in global temperatures max.
Sufficient to be evident (ski fields etc.) but no second story access improvement.
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Post by douglavers on Mar 28, 2021 4:08:10 GMT
Nonentropic
We have a forecast large solar minimum coming up, possibly for the next three decades.
Sadly, this is coinciding with a rapidly diminishing planetary magnetic field. Both of these factors will "encourage" the arrival of much more cosmic radiation, as well as the effect of whatever other weather phenomena they help control.
We will, in my view, be lucky to get away with a 0.6 degC fall. It could end up being far worse.
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Post by nonentropic on Mar 28, 2021 8:43:24 GMT
so that is what seems needed to persuade the Leeming to jump.
I have a daughter in dental school and in five years she hits, the track for a job all I hope is that the world is worth living in.
I have got her going slightly right of center largely because of the racist selection processes in the med and dental schools here in NZ, it keeps her focused knowing that they have an average entry pass 20% lower than the cluster she is forced to travel in and still they get the exams before sitting. Ultimately this will be understood.
Had a business acquaintance who asked how she was and said all you need to know is that if you go to hospital and a Maori doctor stands in front of you ask for a new one. He was visibly shocked difficulty is that this is actually a real problem unless you think medicine is easy.
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 18, 2021 16:20:14 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 18, 2021 20:40:26 GMT
It is true. You just can't see it yet. Believe us. Plain Language Summary The Antarctic Ice Sheet (AIS) is an important component of theglobal climate system. Human activities have caused the atmosphere and especially the oceans to warm.However, the full effect of human caused climate change on the AIS has not currently been realized becausethe ice sheet responds on a range of time scales and to many different Earth processes. Modernobservations show that West Antarctica has been melting at an accelerating rate since the 2000s, while thedata for East Antarctica are less clear.
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Post by Ratty on Apr 18, 2021 21:57:59 GMT
It is true. You just can't see it yet. Believe us. Plain Language Summary The Antarctic Ice Sheet (AIS) is an important component of theglobal climate system. Human activities have caused the atmosphere and especially the oceans to warm.However, the full effect of human caused climate change on the AIS has not currently been realized becausethe ice sheet responds on a range of time scales and to many different Earth processes. Modernobservations show that West Antarctica has been melting at an accelerating rate since the 2000s, while thedata for East Antarctica are less clear. That's about where I stopped reading.
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Post by neilhamp on Apr 19, 2021 7:12:11 GMT
Current state of Antarctic Ice Extent for March 2021 Notice the dramatic recovery over the past 4 years and the steady rise +2% over the past 40 years 
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