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Post by missouriboy on Jan 14, 2021 14:35:02 GMT
I hope that these soldiers put into place for "protection" are Trump's Trojan horse. If Democrats were sacking Troy.
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 14, 2021 16:58:19 GMT
I hope that these soldiers put into place for "protection" are Trump's Trojan horse. The National Guard in DC come under the direct command of the President (that will cheer up Mme Pelosi)
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Post by gridley on Jan 15, 2021 0:30:22 GMT
I hope that these soldiers put into place for "protection" are Trump's Trojan horse. The National Guard in DC come under the direct command of the President (that will cheer up Mme Pelosi) Folks, I'm sorry, but there isn't any Trojan horse. Trump is done. I don't know if he's going to prison or not, but he's done. No, he hasn't committed any crime I'm aware of. He still might go to prison. Yes, there's a decent chance he won the election. He's still leaving office. I get an inside look at the left's mindset. Even major companies are jumping on the bandwagon that Trump instigated a coup/insurrection/etc at the Capitol. The general population of the left are sure of it. They believe the courts proved there was no election fraud (yes, I know they mostly declined to hear cases on procedural grounds. Most of the left aren't educated enough to know the difference even if they ever heard those details). It. Is. Over. Time spent hoping for a miracle here is time not spent getting ready for what's coming. We're going to have a Biden (and then Harris) presidency with full support from both houses of Congress. We may loose the Supreme Court (yes, not legitimately). We're going to be blocked and censored on mainstream social media. I have no idea if we can win the fight that's coming. I know we won't if we pin our hopes on a lost cause.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 15, 2021 1:23:33 GMT
A cause is only lost when everyone says it is. Those who resist to a particular point in time will be the same ones who resist after that point in time. The Revolution was won by those who stayed, not by those who left. Those who wear masks everyday, everywhere, will not resist anything anytime. We may have to reinstitute the Valley Forge breakfast.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 15, 2021 2:14:28 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Jan 15, 2021 17:03:05 GMT
Wise words?
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Post by walnut on Jan 18, 2021 5:02:50 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 18, 2021 13:56:56 GMT
A nose always sniffing the wind, and an ass always shirking the fire. Where's Jimmy? He and Roy are skiping down the primrose path,
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 18, 2021 19:20:13 GMT
Wednesday may be entertaining - or perhaps it was a slip of the tongue
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Post by Ratty on Jan 18, 2021 19:44:55 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 18, 2021 20:03:57 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 19, 2021 3:18:18 GMT
This is important because of this Executive Order recently extended that declares a state of emergency against foreign interference in elections... "Executive Order on Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election FOREIGN POLICY
Issued on: September 12, 2018 SHARE: ALL NEWS By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.) (NEA), section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,
I, DONALD J. TRUMP, President of the United States of America, find that the ability of persons located, in whole or in substantial part, outside the United States to interfere in or undermine public confidence in United States elections, including through the unauthorized accessing of election and campaign infrastructure or the covert distribution of propaganda and disinformation, constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States. Although there has been no evidence of a foreign power altering the outcome or vote tabulation in any United States election, foreign powers have historically sought to exploit America’s free and open political system. In recent years, the proliferation of digital devices and internet-based communications has created significant vulnerabilities and magnified the scope and intensity of the threat of foreign interference, as illustrated in the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment. I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with this threat......."and jump to the - if you do that, then we ..... "Sec. 2. (a) All property and interests in property that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of any United States person of the following persons are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any foreign person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security:
(i) to have directly or indirectly engaged in, sponsored, concealed, or otherwise been complicit in foreign interference in a United States election;
(ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of, any activity described in subsection (a)(i) of this section or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or
(iii) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property or interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order."There's more www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/That could be salutary for anyone who enabled the interference from abroad - all accounts frozen all assets seized
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Post by Ratty on Jan 19, 2021 3:23:47 GMT
[ Snip ] That could be salutary for anyone who enabled the interference from abroad - all accounts frozen all assets seized Unlikely to happen under a Harris administration?
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 19, 2021 3:47:08 GMT
[ Snip ] That could be salutary for anyone who enabled the interference from abroad - all accounts frozen all assets seized Unlikely to happen under a Harris administration? Who said anything about a Harris Administration - if the Election was rigged by foreign interference it can be declared void. All the people that would then try to complain at that find their cell phones don't work and they cannot get onto the internet and all their credit cards are rejected. Some of the 'leading lights' could be in a holding cell somewhere. Amazing how no communications, no money, no credit cards can turn a somebody into a lost nobody.
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Post by gridley on Jan 19, 2021 13:53:58 GMT
Unlikely to happen under a Harris administration? Who said anything about a Harris Administration - if the Election was rigged by foreign interference it can be declared void. Trump's missed his window for that. Even those of us who are willing to accept the possibility that it was rigged now know that he won't have the support of Congress or the judiciary. He won't be able to provide the details because the tech giants will censor them. So it will effectively be his unsupported word that we need to take immediate and unprecedented action - and, sorry, while he's orders of magnitude better than Biden(Harris), I can't take his unsupported word for that. Can you? Remember bumpstocks? If he really is planning to declare the election void he should have kept pushing back at every step even after Congress certified the electoral results. Some people will back him anyway because they know a Harris (excuse me, Biden) administration with the support of both houses of Congress means a certainty of final blackout, and the *chance* that Trump can pull us out of the descending spiral is the best one we're going to get. Others won't because to go with him at THIS point is also more or less giving up on the rule of law in the short term - with nothing but Trump's character as a promise of it returning in the long term. If people are to risk their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor they tend to want better odds than that.
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