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Post by nautonnier on Jun 5, 2021 13:59:46 GMT
Fixed it for you Ratty The CDC/FDA also claimed that there were no therapeutics something that was shown to be false when Donald was treated successfully in 3 days; a factoid that the media put with Hunter's laptop.
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Post by duwayne on Jun 5, 2021 16:49:24 GMT
I find the headline “Previous Infection is Superior to Vaccine for COVID Protection” may be a bit of a stretch, even based on the article itself. The article says in an early paragraph “We need to get vaccinated because vaccines are highly efficacious. They are better than the traditional response you get from natural infection.” (This is a quote from Fauci referencing 3 recent studies.) The article says later “…an Israeli study with over 6 million participants directly compared the risk of infection (or reinfection) of people who had been vaccinated with that of people who had not been vaccinated but who had survived a COVID infection. They found that the risk of infection for both groups was equivalent…” Here's another article which says that infection doesn’t provide close to full immunity from reinfection. “Although most people infected with COVID-19 have about 80% immunity from catching it again for at least six months, people age 65 and older have less than 50% immunity, the data showed.” www.upi.com/Health_News/2021/03/17/coronavirus-reinfection-study/8961616008058/It would seem that you are pretty much immune from future serious outcomes (death or long-lasting health disorders) from either a vaccination or past infection. That does not rule out the possibility that one might be a little better than the other for your particular situation (age, race, natural immunity, etc) or for some particular variant or future mutation. The article also contains this statement… “As of May 21, the CDC’s own Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) lists 262,521 reports of adverse events. Here are some of the events associated with COVID vaccination included in these reports: 4,406 deaths; 14,986 hospitalizations; 6,494 blood clots and strokes; 1,598 heart attacks; and 511 miscarriages.” There is an implication that the deaths, hospitalizations, etc. were caused by the vaccine. As I understand it, these totals include statistics for cases which were not caused by the vaccines, but just occurred after the vaccine was given. I may have heard wrong but It’s my understanding that the CDC has not found a case where a death was definitely caused by the vaccine.
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Post by nonentropic on Jun 5, 2021 21:32:10 GMT
The reality of it is that the vaccine works. what is daft is vaccinating twice and people who have had it. All processes have risk why double down and why vaccinate for no outcome while some who want vaccination are unable to get it.
this is about herd immunity. The idea of herd immunity is global not national if we want to achieve more at a global well being level if the EU achieve herd immunity then the travel can resume if not then the UK will be shut down. this will be repeated globally.
What the therapeutics such as Ivermechtin achieve is a tolerable risk profile for the C19 disease. Big pharma is dialed into continuous disruption the people of the world can deal with risk well witness how a developed country such as the UK who are a leading casualty of C19 are really just concerned about pub opening dates etc.
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Post by missouriboy on Jun 6, 2021 1:07:41 GMT
I do wish they would get the story straight on re-infection. I have seen "several" articles stating that all previous re-infection claims have turned out to not be so. If this were a serious problem, you would think there would be many documented cases. A lack would suggest a strong immunity is developed on a regular basis that precludes second infections. Remembering that all early cases (prior to vaccines) would have to have been natural acquired immunity. Marta's father and brother in Colombia were vaccinated and both afterward tested positive for covid. Her father had symptoms and her brother didn't. These could be instances of false positives ... or it might suggest less robust vaccine immunity, at least in these cases.
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Post by sigurdur on Jun 6, 2021 1:25:29 GMT
The vaccine will have to wait for me.
The benefit of the vaccine doesn't preclude getting Covid19.
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Post by Ratty on Jun 6, 2021 3:55:39 GMT
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Post by blustnmtn on Jun 6, 2021 11:30:37 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Jun 6, 2021 12:19:19 GMT
Covid19 is here to stay. Do all signs point to a lab release? Yep. We can't change the past.
How people respond is what I find most interesting. I am old enough to remember risks. Now, most don't want to accept any risks. This is the most important observation.
We have what we call the developed and undeveloped world. Those in the developed world run scared, those in the undeveloped world accept risk and live.
Life is not a bed of roses.
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Post by Ratty on Jun 6, 2021 12:33:46 GMT
Covid19 is here to stay. Do all signs point to a lab release? Yep. We can't change the past. How people respond is what I find most interesting. I am old enough to remember risks. Now, most don't want to accept any risks. This is the most important observation. We have what we call the developed and undeveloped world. Those in the developed world run scared, those in the undeveloped world accept risk and live. Life is not a bed of roses. The wisdom of the ages on display.
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Post by blustnmtn on Jun 6, 2021 12:44:40 GMT
Covid19 is here to stay. Do all signs point to a lab release? Yep. We can't change the past. How people respond is what I find most interesting. I am old enough to remember risks. Now, most don't want to accept any risks. This is the most important observation. We have what we call the developed and undeveloped world. Those in the developed world run scared, those in the undeveloped world accept risk and live. Life is not a bed of roses. As I tell all: “We’re all just a heart beat away”...”Life is Dangerous”. I choose to go for it and work to make the best of it.
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 6, 2021 14:39:26 GMT
Covid19 is here to stay. Do all signs point to a lab release? Yep. We can't change the past. How people respond is what I find most interesting. I am old enough to remember risks. Now, most don't want to accept any risks. This is the most important observation. We have what we call the developed and undeveloped world. Those in the developed world run scared, those in the undeveloped world accept risk and live. Life is not a bed of roses. As I tell all: “We’re all just a heart beat away”...”Life is Dangerous”. I choose to go for it and work to make the best of it. As an Irish 'comedian' Spike Milligan said {in a book called "Puckoon" worth a read if you can find it: "Life is a long agonized illness only curable by death."The late update in the zerohedge post is the most interesting: "Sources tell RedState the defector has been with the DIA for three months and that he has provided an extensive, technically detailed debrief to US officials. In DIA’s assessment, the information provided by the defector is legitimate.
Sources say the level of confidence in the defector’s information is what has led to a sudden crisis of confidence in Dr. Anthony Fauci, adding that U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) personnel detailed to DIA have corroborated very technical details of information provided by the defector."The name Fauci will go down in history like Mengele - he has probably managed with Daszack to kill more people than the Holocaust in a shorter time period, while damaging the world economy possibly beyond repair. This will actually put him in the good books of the progressives (Fabians) who were looking for a way to crash the world economy so they could 'build back better'. This will be why Bill Gates gets on so well with Fauci. A real Fourth Turning
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Post by blustnmtn on Jun 6, 2021 14:47:37 GMT
As I tell all: “We’re all just a heart beat away”...”Life is Dangerous”. I choose to go for it and work to make the best of it. As an Irish 'comedian' Spike Milligan said {in a book called "Puckoon" worth a read if you can find it: "Life is a long agonized illness only curable by death."The late update in the zerohedge post is the most interesting: "Sources tell RedState the defector has been with the DIA for three months and that he has provided an extensive, technically detailed debrief to US officials. In DIA’s assessment, the information provided by the defector is legitimate.
Sources say the level of confidence in the defector’s information is what has led to a sudden crisis of confidence in Dr. Anthony Fauci, adding that U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) personnel detailed to DIA have corroborated very technical details of information provided by the defector."The name Fauci will go down in history like Mengele - he has probably managed with Daszack to kill more people than the Holocaust in a shorter time period, while damaging the world economy possibly beyond repair. This will actually put him in the good books of the progressives (Fabians) who were looking for a way to crash the world economy so they could 'build back better'. This will be why Bill Gates gets on so well with Fauci. A real Fourth Turning History is written by the victors. I have never been more aware of the truth in that axiom.
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Post by blustnmtn on Jun 6, 2021 15:36:21 GMT
This: www.zerohedge.com/political/fauci-funded-wuhan-military-scientist-filed-covid-vaccine-patent-days-after-pandemicI’m no geneticist. However, I’ve been quite involved in the technical patent process. I have continually wondered about many of the questions raised in this article. My main thesis has always been and remains that the modern governments of the world have all known from the beginning of this the what where and how’s of SARS-COV 2. The useful idiots in State Media and the complete lack of critical thinking are the most important tools of the rulers. It occurs to me that if one decided to develop a bio-weapon, it might be very useful to have a “vaccine” developed prior to the deployment of that weapon.
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Post by gridley on Jun 6, 2021 15:56:34 GMT
I've actually been wondering why USAMRIID has been so quiet on COVID-19.
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Post by missouriboy on Jun 6, 2021 18:38:32 GMT
Again, Eisenhower was right.
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