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Post by lsvalgaard on Oct 12, 2010 21:17:55 GMT
Dr Svalgaard, I read you made several studies with aa index. Could you tell me what inspires you this graph I made dear "National Treasure" (I don't what means IMHO)  It's the pluviometryl in Bordeaux in white .Red line is for ssn RI12, blue one for aa index. It seems highly unlikely that the rainfall at anyone particular location would depend on such global measures as aa and ssn. |
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Post by af4ex on Oct 12, 2010 22:18:17 GMT
>> (I don't know what means IMHO)
France,
Ca veut dire: In My Humble Opinion => a mon avis humble
:-]
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Post by france on Oct 13, 2010 9:55:58 GMT
Dr Svalgaard, I read you made several studies with aa index. Could you tell me what inspires you this graph I made dear "National Treasure" (I don't what means IMHO) It's the pluviometryl in Bordeaux in white .Red line is for ssn RI12, blue one for aa index. It seems highly unlikely that the rainfall at anyone particular location would depend on such global measures as aa and ssn. - In facts this location receive rain after it fell down on America continent and situated at Atlantic coast it's the open door for precipitations on European continent (it's the reason why I didn't wait to find global (or American or European) measures - very difficult to get) - Did you find the same anomaly in the correlation with aa index and ssn (around 1980) O. Richard and P. Lantos noticed in their study ? |
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Post by Bob k6tr on Oct 16, 2010 6:54:00 GMT
Leif are Coronal Holes formed by the residual magnetism left over from dead sunspots that migrates up through the Corona ?
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Post by lsvalgaard on Oct 16, 2010 15:31:12 GMT
Leif are Coronal Holes formed by the residual magnetism left over from dead sunspots that migrates up through the Corona ? essentially: yes. One more ingredient is needed: the 'residual' magnetic areas must have a minimum size for the hole to open up. |
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Post by france on Oct 16, 2010 21:41:21 GMT
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Post by lsvalgaard on Oct 16, 2010 22:52:54 GMT
I think it is a good paper. We'll have to wait and see if it holds up. |
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Post by farkstick on Oct 17, 2010 15:26:54 GMT
Hey Dr. S,
Are all of those cosmic rays seen lately on the LASCOs solar cosmic rays or GCRs?
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Post by lsvalgaard on Oct 17, 2010 16:02:59 GMT
Hey Dr. S, Are all of those cosmic rays seen lately on the LASCOs solar cosmic rays or GCRs? solar |
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Post by csspider57 on Oct 17, 2010 19:25:56 GMT
How to set this question up .. Ok here goes.. With all the discussion about Jovian planets producing tidal effects on the sun.. which they say influences sunspot cycles, and somehow is the cause of solar wobble? aaargh Not trying to start another discussion on this topic just a question about "Wobbles." (weebles wobble but they don't fall down.ha) So.. over on wuwt the discussion, etc. Carla says:
October 16, 2010 at 9:31 am
Carsten Arnholm, Norway says:
October 15, 2010 at 9:13 am
Pascvaks says:
October 15, 2010 at 7:35 am
Everything wobbles for a reason.
Yes, and the reason has been known for hundreds of years: Newton’s law of universal gravitation.
What is unknown is any mechanism to modulate solar activity from planetary motions. Tidal forces follow from this law, but none of the planets create tidal bulges worth mentioning on the Sun.~ Well, if it is “Universal,” and what if I said, "the galaxy is wobbling.. as it rotates and orbits its way through Intergalactic space".. More often than not this is the image view we see of our galaxy. 
..The larger mass, in turn, means a greater gravitational pull ..
..we're moving at about 600,000 miles per hour in our Galactic orbit, up from the previous estimate of 500,000 miles per hour..
www.sflorg.com/spacenews/sn010509_02.html
Now flip our thin milky way disk up on its side, and give it an orbital direction as in the following image. Is it so farout to think of the whole galaxy doing the wobble?. Galaxy has a north and south pole, magnetic field orientations with outflowing and inflowing winds. (with simularities of the solar configurations.)  Is it so farout to think of the whole galaxy doing the wobble? The heliosphere wobbles and oscillates above and below the galactic plane, why is this farout thinking? That the heliosphere is tracing its orbit with the wobble and the planets orbits are mirroring the effect or something like that. My head hurts now I need some muzak. Hey Bob howz bout some Hank Jr. off the the "Im One of You," CD Let's start with Hank Jr. rendition of Amos Moses. Good disk all around. |
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Post by csspider57 on Oct 18, 2010 2:49:05 GMT
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Post by lsvalgaard on Oct 18, 2010 3:05:03 GMT
How to set this question up .. Ok here goes.. With all the discussion about Jovian planets producing tidal effects on the sun.. which they say influences sunspot cycles, and somehow is the cause of solar wobble? aaargh Not trying to start another discussion on this topic just a question about "Wobbles." (weebles wobble but they don't fall down.ha) So.. over on wuwt the discussion, etc. Carla says:
October 16, 2010 at 9:31 am
Carsten Arnholm, Norway says:
October 15, 2010 at 9:13 am
Pascvaks says:
October 15, 2010 at 7:35 am
Everything wobbles for a reason.
Yes, and the reason has been known for hundreds of years: Newton’s law of universal gravitation.
What is unknown is any mechanism to modulate solar activity from planetary motions. Tidal forces follow from this law, but none of the planets create tidal bulges worth mentioning on the Sun.~ Well, if it is “Universal,” and what if I said, "the galaxy is wobbling.. as it rotates and orbits its way through Intergalactic space".. More often than not this is the image view we see of our galaxy.
..The larger mass, in turn, means a greater gravitational pull ..
..we're moving at about 600,000 miles per hour in our Galactic orbit, up from the previous estimate of 500,000 miles per hour..
www.sflorg.com/spacenews/sn010509_02.html
Now flip our thin milky way disk up on its side, and give it an orbital direction as in the following image. Is it so farout to think of the whole galaxy doing the wobble?. Galaxy has a north and south pole, magnetic field orientations with outflowing and inflowing winds. (with simularities of the solar configurations.) Is it so farout to think of the whole galaxy doing the wobble? The heliosphere wobbles and oscillates above and below the galactic plane, why is this farout thinking? That the heliosphere is tracing its orbit with the wobble and the planets orbits are mirroring the effect or something like that. My head hurts now I need some muzak. Hey Bob howz bout some Hank Jr. off the the "Im One of You," CD Let's start with Hank Jr. rendition of Amos Moses. Good disk all around. Everything wobbles all over the place, but nobody feels a thing from all that [except REALLY, REALLY close to a tide producing body that can rip you apart]. e.g. during a day you wobble several thousand miles at 1000 mph up and down with respect to the orbital plane of the Earth [because the rotation axis is inclined 23.5 degrees], yey you don't feel a thing. |
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Post by csspider57 on Oct 18, 2010 3:24:07 GMT
e.g. during a day you wobble several thousand miles at 1000 mph up and down with respect to the orbital plane of the Earth [because the rotation axis is inclined 23.5 degrees], yey you don't feel a thing. Oh yes I do to feel a wobble, we drive the badger mobile around up to some speeds and my right front is a wobblin. (I predict more new tires this year) Oh by the way added some things to the post above. ooops |
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Post by csspider57 on Oct 22, 2010 12:55:35 GMT
Trying to visualize the rotational and dipole axis' of the solar system, when I realized I was lacking ah.. well the one sited below. lol Is 7.15 a go for sol? HELIOSEISMIC DETERMINATION OF THE SOLAR ROTATION AXISJ. G. Beck and P. Giles W. W. Hansen Experimental Physics Laboratory, Stanford University, Stanford, CA From pg. 4 top right. "We do encourage use of i = 7.15 degrees for any studies
requiring careful alignment of the solar rotation axis."iopscience.iop.org/1538-4357/621/2/L153/pdf/1538-4357_621_2_L153.pdfWith respect to the dipole axis of the outer two planets.. they seem to be marching to the beat of a different drum out there Dr. S., as the little picture story below unfolds inward.  But I'm just learning this week what a quadrupole is ..maybe I should wobble those two differently along the drive shaft coil too, while marching along. |
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Post by lsvalgaard on Oct 23, 2010 0:03:47 GMT
Trying to visualize the rotational and dipole axis' of the solar system, when I realized I was lacking ah.. well the one sited below. lol Is 7.15 a go for sol? HELIOSEISMIC DETERMINATION OF THE SOLAR ROTATION AXISJ. G. Beck and P. Giles W. W. Hansen Experimental Physics Laboratory, Stanford University, Stanford, CA From pg. 4 top right. "We do encourage use of i = 7.15 degrees for any studies
requiring careful alignment of the solar rotation axis."iopscience.iop.org/1538-4357/621/2/L153/pdf/1538-4357_621_2_L153.pdfWith respect to the dipole axis of the outer two planets.. they seem to be marching to the beat of a different drum out there Dr. S., as the little picture story below unfolds inward. But I'm just learning this week what a quadrupole is ..maybe I should wobble those two differently along the drive shaft coil too, while marching along. The magnetic dipole axis changes with time, so the picture you show is only for the present. Before and after, the tilts will be different. |
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