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Post by magellan on May 11, 2009 2:03:11 GMT
There are experts who say your sources are wrong. Who? www.seafriends.org.nz/issues/global/acid.htmFor years we've been hearing the Great Barrier Reef was doomed to extinction. In 2006 that's all we heard about. Now in 2009, by shear luck, the GBR has somehow miraculously recovered. It is one catastrophe after another. Had we the ability to monitor as closely throughout the last several thousand years, it wouldn't be any different throughout history. Supposedly human induced CO2 in the atmosphere stays there for hundreds of years, yet apparently it also gets sucked up by the oceans to wreak havoc. Which is it? As global warming fails to materialize in the coming years as the Great and Powerful Oz (pulling levers on GCM's) predicts, at what point do true believers come to the realization they've been had?
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Post by crakar24 on May 12, 2009 4:37:57 GMT
You have missed the point Magellan, you cannot be "had" by something that requires faith to begin with.
The only thing they have left to cling to is the land surface temps which are smudged and massaged beyond the point of usefulness, take this from them and they will simple "believe" in AGW. So you see they cannot be had.
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Post by glc on May 12, 2009 8:47:19 GMT
The only thing they have left to cling to is the land surface temps which are smudged and massaged beyond the point of usefulness, take this from them and they will simple "believe" in AGW
There's also the satellite temperatures which show strong warming since the early 1990s. And if you think the warming is over because of recent ENSO conditions just keep your eye on the upcoming sept, oct .... anomalies.
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Post by socold on May 12, 2009 19:32:27 GMT
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Post by crakar24 on May 12, 2009 23:28:54 GMT
The only thing they have left to cling to is the land surface temps which are smudged and massaged beyond the point of usefulness, take this from them and they will simple "believe" in AGWThere's also the satellite temperatures which show strong warming since the early 1990s. And if you think the warming is over because of recent ENSO conditions just keep your eye on the upcoming sept, oct .... anomalies. Strong warming since the 1990's, all this from 100ppm increase in CO2 over a 100 year time frame. Too bad you dont have a shred of evidence to go along with that claim. But i will take your advice and keep a close eye on sep,oct figures you can count on that. Cheers
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