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Post by icefisher on Jun 28, 2009 16:47:35 GMT
I don't claim to be an expert, but I've ignored the advice of the "experts" most of my life so far and as a result I'm doing quite nicely What!! You are not building a nest egg?
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Post by dmapel on Jun 28, 2009 17:03:03 GMT
You are mad at me again stevie. You are really funny when you get mad. Here is a reference for you that explains the extreme desert diurnal temp difference in more precise scientific terms-heat capacity and all that junk. However, the bottom line is the same: It's the scarcity of water. Sorry stevie boy, the back radiation from CO2 is negligible. faculty.unlv.edu/landau/desertgeography.htmI don't have the time or inclination to attempt to educate you on economics stevie. You naive minimum wage worshiping ideological types are impervious to ecomomic realities. And I am not worried about your feckless warmista politicians having any impact on my lifestyle, with their phony save the Earth schemes. I can afford to pay their bullcrap carbon taxes, and go merrily on my way toward creating a carbon footprint as close to the size of your hero Al Gore's as I can get. I would just hate to have to witness the unnecessary suffering they would impose on those who can't afford it. I don't claim to be an expert, but I've ignored the advice of the "experts" most of my life so far and as a result I'm doing quite nicely That's more of your bullcrap stevie. You pretend to be an expert, but what you are doing is just parroting your chosen "experts" on the hysterical catastrophic AGW theology. And you are really not doing nicely. You are as feckless as your "experts". Those flat SPOTS are killing you characters. The CO2 will continue to flow stevie.
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Post by sigurdur on Jun 28, 2009 17:05:49 GMT
Shall we keep this civil gentlemen?
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Post by dmapel on Jun 28, 2009 17:32:50 GMT
I am not a gentleman. Neither are Gore/Hansen/soclod/stevie/et al.
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Post by steve on Jun 28, 2009 19:11:53 GMT
Here is a reference for you that explains the extreme desert diurnal temp difference in more precise scientific terms-heat capacity and all that junk. However, the bottom line is the same: It's the scarcity of water. Sorry stevie boy, the back radiation from CO2 is negligible. faculty.unlv.edu/landau/desertgeography.htmYou need to accept that hand waving about the diurnal cycle in the deserts doesn't meet any sort of standard of proof. Your "all that junk" shows your attitude to the science. As it happens I agree with you that nothing can be do This feigned concern is somewhat undermined by your lack of concern for those people who cannot earn a living wage despite working for long hours in a healthy economy. It's an economic issue - because economies cope with many things out of their control (such as cost of oil and commodities). But it's also a moral issue. Never pretended to be an expert. Unlike some, I know my limits.
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Post by steve on Jun 28, 2009 19:13:24 GMT
I don't claim to be an expert, but I've ignored the advice of the "experts" most of my life so far and as a result I'm doing quite nicely What!! You are not building a nest egg? I've not built it out of banking stocks
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Post by icefisher on Jun 28, 2009 20:29:28 GMT
What!! You are not building a nest egg? I've not built it out of banking stocks Only some experts recommended that. They all recommended building a nest egg Steve. You have to do better than that.
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Post by steve on Jun 28, 2009 21:03:03 GMT
I've not built it out of banking stocks Only some experts recommended that. They all recommended building a nest egg Steve. You have to do better than that. The person who advised that I built a nest egg was my mother. I'd never ignore her
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Post by icefisher on Jun 29, 2009 1:58:50 GMT
The person who advised that I built a nest egg was my mother. I'd never ignore her Folk advice is good. Wonder why you don't follow it in this topic.
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Post by dmapel on Jun 29, 2009 3:12:29 GMT
You are too easy steve. Can't you see that I am just having a little fun, at your expense. Much of what I post is just thrown out there to provoke dumb emotional reactions from you little warmistas. (It works)
The diurnal desert yatta, yatta ,yatta was not offered as a standard of proof stevie. However, it and many other observations of the real World climate are pretty good clues that point to the existence of very serious flaws in the hysterical catastrophic AGW theology. Hey, could your faith's failure to even half-way resemble reality be why NO ONE is going to take any significant action to prevent us all from burning up?
This feigned concern is somewhat undermined by your lack of concern for those people who cannot earn a living wage despite working for long hours in a healthy economy. It's an economic issue - because economies cope with many things out of their control (such as cost of oil and commodities). But it's also a moral issue.
Now that is really dumb steve. It shows a stunning lack of understanding of both economics, and basic human nature. What would make you happy steve? Doubling, tripling, quadrupling, the minimum wage? Name it stevie. And to show how progressive and compassionate I am, I will support it.
I have been in business for thirty years and have hired many hundreds of employees. I have yet to be able to get away with paying anything close to the minimum wage. Maybe it is because, like many other employers, I can't afford to hire high school dropouts with no skills or the motivation to better themselves.
Rock on stevie. Don't be mad. Keep me entertained. I am still saving you a seat on the Mothership.
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Post by steve on Jun 29, 2009 6:29:52 GMT
You are too easy steve. Can't you see that I am just having a little fun, at your expense. Much of what I post is just thrown out there to provoke dumb emotional reactions from you little warmistas. (It works) No you're not. You hate to lose an argument, but you've suddenly realised that your bullying tone isn't a match for intellect. Sour grapes because your argument fell flat - "Um OK. That wasn't a good argument - but if you give me a minute I'll think of a REAL good argument that you won't be able to argue with steviepoos.". Broadly speaking, if a minimum wage employee can feed clothe and house themselves to an acceptable standard, pay for health insurance, and are unlikely to slip into poverty or be a drain on the state when they retire, then given that you're in a first-world country, that's fine by me. No chance. You're B-Ark material, mate.
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Post by dmapel on Jun 29, 2009 16:17:31 GMT
You are really thick stevie. I just told you that my game was to bully you into making dumb emotional replies, and you have immediately done it again. This is like slapping a defenseless baby. I am beginning to feel a little guilty.
I am not losing any arguments stevie. Haven't you conceded that the political stooges of the hysterical catastrophic AGW theocracy are not going to do anything meaningful about saving the planet from burning up? That's all I want stevie. I am a mean bully and I want the planet to burn up.
Broadly speaking, if a minimum wage employee can feed clothe and house themselves to an acceptable standard, pay for health insurance, and are unlikely to slip into poverty or be a drain on the state when they retire, then given that you're in a first-world country, that's fine by me.
You are incredibly naive stevie. And quite obviously, you have never provided a job to anyone. Broadly speaking, what the hell is an acceptable standard? We have a lot of very fat poor people here. Do the 300 pounders deserve more money for food, clothing, health care, and living space than the skinny ones? You forgot about transportation and entertainment. What if a minimum wage worker has eight kids and a couple of wives? Does he get ten times as much pay as the single childless guy? What about the lazy drug addled clown who is half as productive as his fellow workers? Ah pay him, it's not his fault. What about the poor people who don't even have a minimum wage job stevie-don't you care about them? Well, let's mandate a 30 hour work week and then everybody will have a job. But could we compete in the World economy anymore? No problem, we will revive the Depression Era Smoot-Hawley Trade War Law, but we will win this time. And all of the increased costs of our humane employment policies will come out of the profits that the slimy polluting capitalists have been sucking out of the downtrodden poor forever. Hey, let's simplify the policy so that the prols can understand it: From each according to his/her/transgender abilities, to each according to his/her/transgender needs.
My advice stevie, is to not reply.
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Post by steve on Jun 29, 2009 17:16:01 GMT
You are really thick stevie. I just told you that my game was to bully you into making dumb emotional replies, and you have immediately done it again. This is like slapping a defenseless baby. I am beginning to feel a little guilty. Broadly speaking, if a minimum wage employee can feed clothe and house themselves to an acceptable standard, pay for health insurance, and are unlikely to slip into poverty or be a drain on the state when they retire, then given that you're in a first-world country, that's fine by me.You are incredibly naive stevie. And quite obviously, you have never provided a job to anyone. Broadly speaking, what the hell is an acceptable standard? We have a lot of very fat poor people here. Do the 300 pounders deserve more money for food, clothing, health care, and living space than the skinny ones? You forgot about transportation and entertainment. What if a minimum wage worker has eight kids and a couple of wives? Does he get ten times as much pay as the single childless guy? What about the lazy drug addled clown who is half as productive as his fellow workers? Ah pay him, it's not his fault. What about the poor people who don't even have a minimum wage job stevie-don't you care about them? Well, let's mandate a 30 hour work week and then everybody will have a job. But could we compete in the World economy anymore? No problem, we will revive the Depression Era Smoot-Hawley Trade War Law, but we will win this time. And all of the increased costs of our humane employment policies will come out of the profits that the slimy polluting capitalists have been sucking out of the downtrodden poor forever. Hey, let's simplify the policy so that the prols can understand it: From each according to his/her/transgender abilities, to each according to his/her/transgender needs. Why do I have to have provided a job to someone to have a say in this. I can see when my taxes have been used to subsidise the low pay of tight-fisted successful businesses whose success has continued despite introduction of a minimum wage. A minimum wage couple should be able to rent a one bed flat in a cheapish area of most towns. The minimum wage is one amount that doesn't cater for average hamburger/crystal meth consumption. I don't believe in a low minimum working week or inventing fake jobs for unemployed telephone sanitisors.
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Post by dmapel on Jun 29, 2009 18:48:54 GMT
I never said you must have provided a job to someone to have a say. Hell, even pinheads are entitled to speak their minds in our Democracies stevie. I assume that you are admitting to never having created a job. How did I guess that?
Anyway, the rest of the post that you should have not made reveals your true feelings about the poor minimum wage earners. Keep them in a small flat in a cheapish part of town, and don't give them any of stevie's tax money.
As for those even less fortunate, who don't have jobs: "#@%k them".
I am going to help you stevie. The reason that minimum wages are set so low, is that even slimy pinheaded faux-populist politicians know that any minimum wage puts some tight-fisted employers out of business. They set the amount right about where they figure the increased amount of unemployment won't be easily noticed by the prols.
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Post by dmapel on Jun 29, 2009 19:46:20 GMT
I know you are mad stevie. Let's see your hysterical response.
Be nice to your mom stevie. You will always need her financial advice.
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