|
Post by missouriboy on Dec 22, 2020 23:12:56 GMT
Soon Dr Roy will have a say. About time for that sharp downward spike associated with La Nina.
|
|
|
Post by douglavers on Dec 28, 2020 12:02:54 GMT
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Dec 28, 2020 12:18:38 GMT
IF Northern Hemisphere summer is as 'warm' as the Southern Hemisphere summer and then we see Theo's really cold winter, it may be difficult for the 'Green New Deal' to make a lot of progress. I am wondering how long the media and NASA fudging can continue to hide unwelcome changes. They've been selling the AGW/carbon footprint for 30 years it will be difficult to unsell, but it will need to be. There are professors now that learned about carbon footprint ideas in high school and are now heads of department teaching the same thing and calling anyone that did not completely agree 'deniers'. It will not be easy. The politicians and economists who have built their future world takeover on planning to reduce carbon footprints may find it even more difficult. “I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.” Leo Tolstoi
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Dec 28, 2020 17:08:29 GMT
|
|
|
Post by missouriboy on Dec 28, 2020 17:49:08 GMT
IF Northern Hemisphere summer is as 'warm' as the Southern Hemisphere summer and then we see Theo's really cold winter, it may be difficult for the 'Green New Deal' to make a lot of progress. I am wondering how long the media and NASA fudging can continue to hide unwelcome changes. They've been selling the AGW/carbon footprint for 30 years it will be difficult to unsell, but it will need to be. There are professors now that learned about carbon footprint ideas in high school and are now heads of department teaching the same thing and calling anyone that did not completely agree 'deniers'. It will not be easy. The politicians and economists who have built their future world takeover on planning to reduce carbon footprints may find it even more difficult. “I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives.” Leo Tolstoi
Liking to consider myself a man of reasonably good Christian values, I suggest we give "them" a choice. Those who come forward to confess and beg foregiveness (Colson like) by, lets say 5PM Eastern time (pick a date), we foregive and welcome back into the flock. The others can look forward to a room mate who looks and acts like Charles Manson. Fair enough?
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Dec 31, 2020 10:55:02 GMT
|
|
|
Post by sigurdur on Dec 31, 2020 12:19:51 GMT
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Dec 31, 2020 12:26:53 GMT
|
|
|
Post by walnut on Dec 31, 2020 14:03:36 GMT
Ending the year at zero deviation. Oh, the humanity.
|
|
|
Post by missouriboy on Dec 31, 2020 14:20:39 GMT
Ending the year at zero deviation. Oh, the humanity. I forecast "jock itch" at high levels.
|
|
|
Post by missouriboy on Dec 31, 2020 14:37:35 GMT
Where Ramstorf is involved do we doubt the outcome? There is no God but CarBon, and Ramstorf is his prophet. Unlikely that the models test alternative drivers. journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/clim/aop/JCLI-D-20-0311.1/JCLI-D-20-0311.1.xmlAbstract Changes in atmospheric circulation under increasing greenhouse gas concentrations are important because of their implications for weather extremes and associated societal risks. However, uncertainties in models and future projections are still large and drivers behind circulation changes are not well understood. Particularly for Europe, a potential weakening of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) is considered important as it affects SST patterns and ocean-atmosphere heat fluxes and, subsequently, European climate. Here we detect and characterize changes in atmospheric circulation patterns over the North Atlantic under increasing CO2 concentrations in simulations of a very high-resolution, fully-coupled, climate model (CM2.6) with a realistic representation of the AMOC. We use an objective clustering technique (Self-Organizing Maps) and validate the model’s clusters against reanalysis data. We compare the frequency of those patterns in a CO2 doubling experiment, characterized by an AMOC decline, with those in a pre-industrial run, and find statistically significant changes. The most robust findings are (1) a ∼30% increase in zonal flow regimes in February, relevant for flood risk in northwestern Europe, and (2) a ∼60% increase in anticyclonic (high-pressure) circulation directly west of the UK in August, relevant for western and central European drought. A robust decrease in the frequency of Scandinavian Blocking is also seen across most months and seasons. Despite the uncertainties regarding atmospheric circulation response to climate change, our findings contribute to the increasing evidence for the emergence of robust high-impact changes over Europe.
|
|
|
Post by sigurdur on Dec 31, 2020 15:31:30 GMT
Where Ramstorf is involved do we doubt the outcome? There is no God but CarBon, and Ramstorf is his prophet. Unlikely that the models test alternative drivers. journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/clim/aop/JCLI-D-20-0311.1/JCLI-D-20-0311.1.xmlAbstract Changes in atmospheric circulation under increasing greenhouse gas concentrations are important because of their implications for weather extremes and associated societal risks. However, uncertainties in models and future projections are still large and drivers behind circulation changes are not well understood. Particularly for Europe, a potential weakening of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) is considered important as it affects SST patterns and ocean-atmosphere heat fluxes and, subsequently, European climate. Here we detect and characterize changes in atmospheric circulation patterns over the North Atlantic under increasing CO2 concentrations in simulations of a very high-resolution, fully-coupled, climate model (CM2.6) with a realistic representation of the AMOC. We use an objective clustering technique (Self-Organizing Maps) and validate the model’s clusters against reanalysis data. We compare the frequency of those patterns in a CO2 doubling experiment, characterized by an AMOC decline, with those in a pre-industrial run, and find statistically significant changes. The most robust findings are (1) a ∼30% increase in zonal flow regimes in February, relevant for flood risk in northwestern Europe, and (2) a ∼60% increase in anticyclonic (high-pressure) circulation directly west of the UK in August, relevant for western and central European drought. A robust decrease in the frequency of Scandinavian Blocking is also seen across most months and seasons. Despite the uncertainties regarding atmospheric circulation response to climate change, our findings contribute to the increasing evidence for the emergence of robust high-impact changes over Europe. However, uncertainties in models and future projections are still large and drivers behind circulation changes are not well understood Note how they state uncertainty in models is not well understood. Then they try and sell a model. Ya just can't make this stuff up.
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Jan 2, 2021 18:23:31 GMT
|
|
|
Post by walnut on Jan 2, 2021 18:37:01 GMT
And it was below for most of the year.
|
|
|
Post by missouriboy on Jan 2, 2021 19:39:18 GMT
Ramstorf and Neil Fergie are a pair.
|
|