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Post by nautonnier on Mar 1, 2010 20:34:29 GMT
"Anyway, I'm pretty much done wiggle-watching now, if we are still seeing a flat or descending GLOBAL temperature trend in 10 years, please wake me up. (Locally, the trend can really go any way for one or two decades, even with strong AGW)"Strange as it was only one or two decades that gave rise to the support for the AGW hypothesis. Perhaps things can go warmer one or two decades without AGW?
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Post by dc51 on Mar 1, 2010 21:02:10 GMT
Ohh!! come on you lot, during the last deep solar minimum of 1911, there was a heatwave in this part of the world. dry and some sunshine would be nice, but at least, there's always hope. Perhaps this cool phase is just a glitch? after all, the medieval warm period lasted a couple of centuries.
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Post by aj1983 on Mar 1, 2010 21:09:34 GMT
"Anyway, I'm pretty much done wiggle-watching now, if we are still seeing a flat or descending GLOBAL temperature trend in 10 years, please wake me up. (Locally, the trend can really go any way for one or two decades, even with strong AGW)"Strange as it was only one or two decades that gave rise to the support for the AGW hypothesis. Perhaps things can go warmer one or two decades without AGW? Certainly Although it has been warming for many more decades of course. Anyway, how many decades of warming will continu to support that this warming is natural?
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Post by aj1983 on Mar 1, 2010 21:10:41 GMT
Ohh!! come on you lot, during the last deep solar minimum of 1911, there was a heatwave in this part of the world. dry and some sunshine would be nice, but at least, there's always hope. Perhaps this cool phase is just a glitch? after all, the medieval warm period lasted a couple of centuries. Actually, it showed many wiggles if you trust the proxies .
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Post by dc51 on Mar 1, 2010 22:12:03 GMT
Ohh!! come on you lot, during the last deep solar minimum of 1911, there was a heatwave in this part of the world. dry and some sunshine would be nice, but at least, there's always hope. Perhaps this cool phase is just a glitch? after all, the medieval warm period lasted a couple of centuries. Actually, it showed many wiggles if you trust the proxies . No, but I'd trust the vikings ;D Himmm, maybe not
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Hot and dry trend Since January. Looks to continue at least through the first half of May.
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Post by solarstormlover54 on Mar 1, 2010 22:28:28 GMT
The lack of solar activity and El-Nino domination brings me to say the summer may resemble the period form 1914 to 1928. In my neck of the woods that was the time of some of the hottest back to back summers.
Summer temps at least 3C above normal for more than 10 years in a row, and very short periods with cooler summers
My View is that low solar activity weakens air and ocean currents, thus the heavily populated areas of eastern north American and Europe miss out on the heat normally brought up by the jet stream. Areas normally cooled by wind and ocean currents get major heat waves and cold snaps. A good example is the cold winter of 2008/09 in the pacific northwest and the Record heatwave the following summer. Also this favors blocking, and that can further lead to extreme temperatures.
Also affected are the foothills and western plains(Alberta,Montana,Wyoming,Colorado, and Texas). These areas will get the worst of the summer heat this summer.
Though with solar activity on the rise the Pacific NW will have a more temperate summer this year, and the heat will have a chance to get to the great lakes.
My forecast says a Hot and humid(but short) summer for the great lakes, summer along the Rockies will linger well into October
-The hottest weather in May and June will be in the Midwest, -Most of July's heat will be from Montana/Alberta to the great lakes.
-The hottest August weather will be in the Northern plains,Prairies, and the Southwest
- In Sept-Oct the heat will favor the Rocky mountains and northern Canada
- The winter of 2010-2011 may be milder
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Post by nautonnier on Mar 3, 2010 0:37:09 GMT
Ohh!! come on you lot, during the last deep solar minimum of 1911, there was a heatwave in this part of the world. dry and some sunshine would be nice, but at least, there's always hope. Perhaps this cool phase is just a glitch? after all, the medieval warm period lasted a couple of centuries. Actually, it showed many wiggles if you trust the proxies . The proxies should only be trusted if they have been validated. It appears that as soon as there is any validation then climate 'scientists' ensure that 'tricks' are used to hide the validation failures.
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