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Post by goldbuster1 on May 12, 2010 5:02:07 GMT
" Northwestern researchers took a different approach, looking at the variations in the planet's magnetic field. This is constantly fluctuating, with magnetism growing stronger or weaker in different places, and with the poles gradually shifting over time. They found that these variations correlated strongly with changes in ocean circulation. In the north Atlantic, for example, changes in the strength of currents were matched by sharp changes in magnetic fields. " www.tgdaily.com/general-sciences-features/42844-ocean-currents-may-control-earths-magnetic-fieldWe all know that major sea currents are climate drivers Where are the CO2 cultists now? Quick pass the bill quick! |
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Post by goldbuster1 on May 12, 2010 5:17:21 GMT
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Post by goldbuster1 on May 12, 2010 23:12:03 GMT
"...Water, being dipolar, can be partly aligned by an electric field and this may be easily shown by the movement of a stream of water by an electrostatic source..." www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/magnetic.html#800Another proof that water will react to Earth magnetic field. Where is CO2 now, lets ask the skeptic tank cult |
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Post by sigurdur on May 12, 2010 23:31:33 GMT
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Post by stranger on May 13, 2010 1:22:32 GMT
Thanks for the link, Sigurdur. There were several copies of the tape, and I listened to part of it at a math club meeting in early 1954.
Of course, 1953 was long before mylar tape so those were acetate tape, and it had a lifespan of just a few years - so I thought Langmuir's discourses were forever lost.
Stranger
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Post by hunter on May 13, 2010 4:24:19 GMT
Amazing. Thanks, sigurdur. |
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Post by dogsbody on May 13, 2010 10:00:37 GMT
" Northwestern researchers took a different approach, looking at the variations in the planet's magnetic field. This is constantly fluctuating, with magnetism growing stronger or weaker in different places, and with the poles gradually shifting over time. They found that these variations correlated strongly with changes in ocean circulation. In the north Atlantic, for example, changes in the strength of currents were matched by sharp changes in magnetic fields. " Or have they reversed cause and effect. Whatever in the world of physics either is conceivable. www.tgdaily.com/general-sciences-features/42844-ocean-currents-may-control-earths-magnetic-fieldWe all know that major sea currents are climate drivers Where are the CO2 cultists now? Quick pass the bill quick! |
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Post by Maui on May 13, 2010 15:08:36 GMT
...so if there is a change in the magnetic field (say due to solar activity), then ocean currents might change. The whole ocean might convulse from degassing of frozen crystals, perhaps causing oil and gas rig explosions.
Oh yeah, that's what's happening now...
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Post by Maui on May 13, 2010 15:09:58 GMT
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Post by hunter on May 13, 2010 16:13:36 GMT
Here goes the neighborhood
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Post by sigurdur on May 13, 2010 16:15:25 GMT
Naw...science will prevail.
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Post by hunter on May 13, 2010 16:17:46 GMT
Naw...science will prevail. Notice how the tidal stresses of Io by Jupiter's proximity are confabulated into solar influences, and how the Farmer's Almanac is reduced to solar only to make the case. |
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Post by latecommer on May 13, 2010 17:48:28 GMT
This is an interesting, even promising, development, but remember rule number one in statistics "Correlation is not causation".
No matter how strong this correlation is, it is not proof in the empirical sense. It would be difficult to find absolute proof since we would need to signifgicantly effect the magnetic field and then observe the result.
Perhaps the best we can do is to have these conclusions varified by other research. I believe that we have a poor understanding of the electrical and magnetic effects on climate, and it is encouraging to see research addressing this.
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Post by Maui on May 14, 2010 2:30:14 GMT
Correlation does not imply causation mainly in the absence of data.
Historical stereo views of the Sun are rather limited, for example. But at the same time that such wonderful new sensors are coming on-line, we KNOW that the Earth is facing a human crunch if not also a solar-cosmic onslaught.
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Post by Maui on May 14, 2010 2:33:25 GMT
If most water is at 34°F, then the ocean is a crystal.
At the bottom of the ocean:
Methane clathrate
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"Burning ice". Methane, released by heating, burns; water drips.
Inset: clathrate structure (University of Göttingen, GZG. Abt. Kristallographie).
Source: United States Geological Survey.
Methane clathrate, also called methane hydrate, methane ice or "fire ice"
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