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Post by excalibur on Jul 12, 2010 22:56:58 GMT
docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/mwr/050/mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf Article in 1922 "The Arctic seems to be warming up. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers who sail the seas about Spitzbergen and the eastern Arctic, all point to a RADICAL change in climatic conditions and un heard of high temperature in that part of the Earth surface... ...In fact, so little ice has never before been noted. The expedition all but established a record, sailing as far north ... in ice free water. This is the farthest north ever reached...Capt. Martin Ingebrigtsen, who has sailed the eastern Arctic for 54 years past. He says that he first noted warmer conditions in 1918, that since that time it has steadly gotten warmer, and that to-day the Arctic of that region is not recognizable as the same region of 1868 to 1917..." They are talking about the opposite Arctic pole region from Canada. In 1900 the Magnetic pole had shifted all the way to Canada and thus created warmer climate in the Eastern part of the Arctic circle. Now we face the reverse phenomena and the magnetic pole is rushing back towards Russia and the western part of the Arctic is getting warmer. It a natural occurrence and proves that precession/wobble dont take 21000 years like Milankovich was making up. www.tgo.uit.no/articl/roadto.html |
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Post by kiwistonewall on Jul 13, 2010 5:44:13 GMT
The Magnetic pole ISNT related to precession of the true Pole (Spin Axis) - The Spin Axis is the astronomical precession Axis.
The Magnetic pole is related to changes in the Earth's Mantle.
Both may effect climate of course, and there may be some connection between the Magnetic pole & the spin Axis.
But they are not the same thing,
Just pointing that out!
cheers
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Post by touko on Jul 13, 2010 8:44:08 GMT
Just pointing that out!
This person is far beyond any repair actually I should think.
Touko
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Post by hunterson on Jul 13, 2010 12:01:09 GMT
excalibur, Unfortunately you post enough garbage that any good points you post are quite lost.
Thanks to that, you enable the true believers to ignore everything you post.
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Post by touko on Jul 13, 2010 12:11:13 GMT
excalibur, Unfortunately you post enough garbage that any good points you post are quite lost.
Thanks to that, you enable the true believers to ignore everything you post.
Quite honestly, I should think ANYONE should ignore him. Even by the denialist standards, he's positively creepy.
Touko
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Post by hunterson on Jul 13, 2010 14:42:33 GMT
excalibur, Unfortunately you post enough garbage that any good points you post are quite lost.
Thanks to that, you enable the true believers to ignore everything you post.Quite honestly, I should think ANYONE should ignore him. Even by the denialist standards, he's positively creepy. Touko Eff you and your denialist crap. |
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Post by touko on Jul 13, 2010 15:55:46 GMT
Eff you and your denialist crap.I had a yellow submarine sent for you if you don't mind. 
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Post by excalibur on Jul 13, 2010 16:21:15 GMT
The Usual CO2 trolls, nothing to had to real evidence just polluting...
The Milankovich Wobble called Precession:
Precession
The third and final of the Milankovitch Cycles is Earth's precession. Precession is the Earth's slow wobble as it spins on axis. This wobbling of the Earth on its axis can be likened to a top running down, and beginning to wobble back and forth on its axis. The precession of Earth wobbles from pointing at Polaris (North Star) to pointing at the star Vega. When this shift to the axis pointing at Vega occurs, Vega would then be considered the North Star. This top-like wobble, or precession, has a periodicity of 23,000 years.
Due to this wobble a climatically significant alteration must take place. When the axis is tilted towards Vega the positions of the Northern Hemisphere winter and summer solstices will coincide with the aphelion and perihelion, respectively. This means that the Northern Hemisphere will experience winter when the Earth is furthest from the Sun and summer when the Earth is closest to the Sun. This coincidence will result in greater seasonal contrasts. At present, the Earth is at perihelion very close to the winter solstice.
Base on the Magnetic pole location in 1830 - 1905- 2010 we are in fact wobbling at a greater speed than the 21000 year advance by Milankovich.
The calculation of the axis of Earth is not as strait forward as you may think.
Using top position of the Sun at the equinoxes and some stars...
A guy in Texas actually use this calculation to prove that the earth tilt changed.
Returning to the fact that the eastern face of the Arctic melted aroung 1914 and the relation to the extreme far west position of the magnetic pole. Now we face the opposite situation we have the Western Arctic melting due movement eastward of the magnetic north pole.
Milankovich called that astronomical climate change and thats exactly was we're experiencing now.
CO2 influence on climate is the Petroleum lobby and the eugenicists solution to global population and new free energy emergence.
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Post by excalibur on Jul 14, 2010 12:43:37 GMT
Scientists warn that weaker Gulf Stream will cool Europe Published: 01 December 2005 Printer-friendly versionSend to friend The transatlantic current which brings mild weather to Western Europe has slowed down by 30%, according to the UK's National Oceanography Centre, raising fears of rapid climate change "within a decade". The Gulf Stream current is 30% weaker today than half a century ago, scientists from the UK's National Oceanography Centre have discovered after taking measurements across the Atlantic. The team of scientists warn that the slowing down could mean a rapid cooling for the UK and the rest of Western Europe, "not in a matter of days […], but probably within a decade." If the current were to stop, they say, cold Canadian style winters would become the norm in Western Europe. The measurements were taken across the Atlantic from Morocco to Florida between spring 2004 and spring 2005. They included temperature, salinity, currents and pressure and were taken at various depths about every 50 kilometres. Similar measurements have already been taken along the same latitude in the past, in 1957, 1981, 1992 and 1998, said Harry Bryden of the National Oceanography Centre. But this is the first time that they are showing signs of a decline in the current's circulation, he said. www.euractiv.com/en/science/scientists-warn-weaker-gulf-stream-cool-europe/article-150183 |
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