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Post by djake on Mar 13, 2011 8:56:15 GMT
Sgcp, I suspect you are well aware of what will be needed "when the big one hits." For those less aware, www.survival-preps.com/More on urban survival after the big one: ferfal.blogspot.com/And for those who can't quite make it out: you need a year's supply of food for each person you are or could become responsible for. ie, you, your immediate family, and helpless and hapless relatives. Plus enough for a deserving acquaintance or two. That means about 1,200 pounds of the canned (preserved) food you like to eat for each person. And remember that one pet eats for one person. Believe it or not. You are not likely to have safe water, so you need a filter that will provide at least two gallons of potable water a day for each person and pet. This is a good one, cheap, and remember you will probably need a spare: www.monolithic.com/stories/a-practical-life-sustaining-water-filterYou will need clothes and bedding suitable for exposed winter camping, as well as very lightweight and durable summer clothing. You will also need at least a years supply of health and comfort items like toothpaste, toothbrushes, aspirin, and so on. You will not have a source for fuel, so don't buy a generator. Put your money in weapons for self defense. In short, get guns, learn to use them, and use them if you have to. Morality? The man who would steal your horse or your emergency supplies would leave you to die a lingering death. He has made his choice, and it is not a moral one. For the "people of the book," morality requires you to "rise up, take up your weapon, and slay him." Or to capture him and decorate the nearest tree with his carcass. That last discourages his pack mates. Stranger A year's worth? I guess that depends on what you mean by "the big one". If there were a disaster bad enough that the rest of the United States couldn't get help to you for a year, and you're in a high population center like LA. You're only hope is to leave as soon as possible. It's said the average person is only 21 missed meals from becoming a cannibal. You've got to leave before all the people that didn't prepare realize help isn't coming anytime soon and try and take what you have. And no matter what weapon you have, unless you have a large number of people banded together for defense, you will be over-run. Get to the mountains or somewhere you can live without having to worry about hundreds of hungry survivors. Even if the population doesn't turn cannibal, a city with thousands dead is going to be a breeding ground for disease and plague. Still having a gun and the ability and will to use it will enable you to make it out of the city with what supplies you and your friends can carry. Hopefully though, even with a 9+ quake and disasters that follow, resquers from regions unaffected should be able to get to you long before a years time. I would think a month's worth would be more than plenty. If it's longer than that, you should have left.
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Post by AstroMet on Mar 15, 2011 22:54:10 GMT
www.space.com/11084-supermoon-earthquake-storm-natural-disasters.htmlOk, so the moon is gunna be closer on March 19, 2011 than it has in 18 years. Some Astrologer guy thinks this could cause disastrous storms, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, dogs and cats talking etc.. Although, I did do a little checking, the last time the moon was closer, March 8, 1993, four days later one of the worst Nor'easters in history hit the US East Coast. With Snow from Canada to Jacksonville, Florida. Hurricane force winds and storm surge. Heavy Squall line across the Caribbean. Over 300 dead. Record snowfalls all over the US and Canada East Coast. A barometric pressure of 960 millibars was measured in New England, normally that's only seen in Cat 2 Hurricanes. Perhaps, there's something to this "supermoon" storm thing after all. *EDIT -- My apologies, Astromet. I just saw the post on the La Nina thread where you mentioned the strong Lunar perigee for that date. It's just not the lunar perigee, but the Sun is waking up, as forecasted, along with the associated planetary configurations relative to the Earth's position. There is a lot going on this spring, as forecasted, and people need to get real and serious about the times they are living in, as I warned that we are entering historic times in the Twenty-Tens.
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Post by w7psk on Mar 15, 2011 23:43:53 GMT
Pfft
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Post by AstroMet on Mar 16, 2011 0:38:26 GMT
Sgcp, I suspect you are well aware of what will be needed "when the big one hits." For those less aware, www.survival-preps.com/More on urban survival after the big one: ferfal.blogspot.com/And for those who can't quite make it out: you need a year's supply of food for each person you are or could become responsible for. ie, you, your immediate family, and helpless and hapless relatives. Plus enough for a deserving acquaintance or two. That means about 1,200 pounds of the canned (preserved) food you like to eat for each person. And remember that one pet eats for one person. Believe it or not. You are not likely to have safe water, so you need a filter that will provide at least two gallons of potable water a day for each person and pet. This is a good one, cheap, and remember you will probably need a spare: www.monolithic.com/stories/a-practical-life-sustaining-water-filterYou will need clothes and bedding suitable for exposed winter camping, as well as very lightweight and durable summer clothing. You will also need at least a years supply of health and comfort items like toothpaste, toothbrushes, aspirin, and so on. You will not have a source for fuel, so don't buy a generator. Put your money in weapons for self defense. In short, get guns, learn to use them, and use them if you have to. Morality? The man who would steal your horse or your emergency supplies would leave you to die a lingering death. He has made his choice, and it is not a moral one. For the "people of the book," morality requires you to "rise up, take up your weapon, and slay him." Or to capture him and decorate the nearest tree with his carcass. That last discourages his pack mates. Stranger A year's worth? I guess that depends on what you mean by "the big one". If there were a disaster bad enough that the rest of the United States couldn't get help to you for a year, and you're in a high population center like LA. You're only hope is to leave as soon as possible. It's said the average person is only 21 missed meals from becoming a cannibal. You've got to leave before all the people that didn't prepare realize help isn't coming anytime soon and try and take what you have. And no matter what weapon you have, unless you have a large number of people banded together for defense, you will be over-run. Get to the mountains or somewhere you can live without having to worry about hundreds of hungry survivors. Even if the population doesn't turn cannibal, a city with thousands dead is going to be a breeding ground for disease and plague. Still having a gun and the ability and will to use it will enable you to make it out of the city with what supplies you and your friends can carry. Hopefully though, even with a 9+ quake and disasters that follow, resquers from regions unaffected should be able to get to you long before a years time. I would think a month's worth would be more than plenty. If it's longer than that, you should have left. Most people are not prepared for disasters. In all of the disasters I covered as a journalist, what I've found is that many people simply were complacent to the point of not having even a day's worth of food, much less a year's supply. The fact is that until people become more aware of the natural environment they live in, especially on coasts and in seismically active regions, that we will continue to see higher death and damage rates ensue. What's needed is better emergency management education so that people then can apply what they've learned into their own lives so that when a disaster does strike they and their families have a fighting change and better survival rates.
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Post by scpg02 on Mar 16, 2011 1:08:48 GMT
Most people are not prepared for disasters. In all of the disasters I covered as a journalist, what I've found is that many people simply were complacent to the point of not having even a day's worth of food, much less a year's supply. The fact is that until people become more aware of the natural environment they live in, especially on coasts and in seismically active regions, that we will continue to see higher death and damage rates ensue. What's needed is better emergency management education so that people then can apply what they've learned into their own lives so that when a disaster does strike they and their families have a fighting change and better survival rates. Hard to stockpile McDonald's. Nobody knows how to cook anything from scratch any more.
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 16, 2011 1:10:51 GMT
Maybe on the West Coast Maggie, but in the heartland, that is what we do most. Seldom go "out" to eat. It just isn't worth it to be disappointed. We have some good resturants around here, but still not as good as our own kitchen.
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Post by AstroMet on Mar 16, 2011 1:50:55 GMT
Most people are not prepared for disasters. In all of the disasters I covered as a journalist, what I've found is that many people simply were complacent to the point of not having even a day's worth of food, much less a year's supply. The fact is that until people become more aware of the natural environment they live in, especially on coasts and in seismically active regions, that we will continue to see higher death and damage rates ensue. What's needed is better emergency management education so that people then can apply what they've learned into their own lives so that when a disaster does strike they and their families have a fighting change and better survival rates. Hard to stockpile McDonald's. Nobody knows how to cook anything from scratch any more. True, but sad Maggie. That's a shame, because it wasn't always that way. People really need to learn to get back to the basics of preparation and stop being dependent on the short-term, because when disasters do happen, food and water stocks always run out quickly.
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Post by heather on Mar 16, 2011 4:50:55 GMT
*clapping* I keep visiting your discussion but haven't had the courage to speak...may i kindly ask about your calculation? i have been wanting to try to link my findings (which I just put in a nice order) in regards to solar flares and the natural disasters that have occured. I am constantly surfing through this site and i am just amazed. I should say I am clapping for you not for what happened. I too am glued to news releases about Japan but am sorting through California. There was a report of San Francisco already having a 2.5 earthquake keeping a close eye on this. Any suggestions appreciated - heather solarflareeffects.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/moving-forward-just-a-little-more-contd/
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Post by AstroMet on Mar 16, 2011 5:34:26 GMT
*clapping* I keep visiting your discussion but haven't had the courage to speak...may i kindly ask about your calculation? i have been wanting to try to link my findings (which I just put in a nice order) in regards to solar flares and the natural disasters that have occured. I am constantly surfing through this site and i am just amazed. I should say I am clapping for you not for what happened. I too am glued to news releases about Japan but am sorting through California. There was a report of San Francisco already having a 2.5 earthquake keeping a close eye on this. Any suggestions appreciated - heather solarflareeffects.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/moving-forward-just-a-little-more-contd/Hi Heather, My calculations are complex - however, you are on the right path with the Sun. The Sun is waking up, however it also are the planetary motions that assist with this, and there are planets now in mathematical alignment by conjunction (as viewed from the Earth) with the Sun. Added to this are the Sun-Earth-Moon alignments, which is strong at new and full moons. The current round has the Moon in perigee at full moon phase, so we have increased land, sea and air tides.
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Post by scpg02 on Mar 16, 2011 7:25:06 GMT
Maybe on the West Coast Maggie, but in the heartland, that is what we do most. Seldom go "out" to eat. It just isn't worth it to be disappointed. We have some good resturants around here, but still not as good as our own kitchen. I still make pie crusts from scratch as well as my cakes etc. And my boys were the only ones who got molasses cookies on a regular basis.
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Post by scpg02 on Mar 16, 2011 7:26:58 GMT
*clapping* I keep visiting your discussion but haven't had the courage to speak...may i kindly ask about your calculation? i have been wanting to try to link my findings (which I just put in a nice order) in regards to solar flares and the natural disasters that have occured. I am constantly surfing through this site and i am just amazed. I should say I am clapping for you not for what happened. I too am glued to news releases about Japan but am sorting through California. There was a report of San Francisco already having a 2.5 earthquake keeping a close eye on this. Any suggestions appreciated - heather solarflareeffects.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/moving-forward-just-a-little-more-contd/Hi Heather, My calculations are complex - however, you are on the right path with the Sun. The Sun is waking up, however it also are the planetary motions that assist with this, and there are planets now in mathematical alignment by conjunction (as viewed from the Earth) with the Sun. Added to this are the Sun-Earth-Moon alignments, which is strong at new and full moons. The current round has the Moon in perigee at full moon phase, so we have increased land, sea and air tides. I think Piers Corbyn also had predicted Earthquakes related to solar activity.
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Post by djake on Mar 16, 2011 7:39:58 GMT
People everywhere should be prepared for at LEAST three weeks without power, water, or a trip to the grocery store. Weather events over the last several years have shown that anyone can find themselves without power. Hurricanes, tornados, floods, high winds, ice and snow all can cause power outages and no matter where you are at least one of these can happen. If it's very severe damage at all, like during a Hurricane, it WILL take days, running to weeks to get everyone's power back. Most people don't even have the absolute minimum 72 hrs that FEMA recommends, those are the people you see shouting from their rooftops "Why wont the government save us?" when disaster hits.
I'd hate to think what might happen if we were to get a direct hit from a "Carrington Event" class CME. We're talking possibly an entire continent without power. Maybe even worldwide, if there are multiple discharges.
Myself, I'm a dialysis patient, so if the power goes out, and there isn't a hospital or clinic with a generator I can get to, I'm pretty much screwed after about a week without treatment. So this sudden upswing in X-class flares worry me a little more than normal, since I have to depend on the government and power companies to be aware of the dangers and to actually act in time to mitigate the effects of a giant CME. A lot of the damage can be prevented if they take the grids offline and isolate the almost impossible to replace transformers and equipment before the solar storm arrives. Trouble is I don't know if there's anyone even watching or planning for such an event. If past performance is any kind of indicator, I kind of think they don't have a plan at all. Politicians and civil service people usually plan for something only after it happens.
Sorry for the off topic rant.
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Post by w7psk on Mar 16, 2011 14:53:13 GMT
Might, maybe, could, should, might have.
All guesses, without merit.
Never posting when wrong, only posting when close.
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Post by scpg02 on Mar 16, 2011 16:07:15 GMT
*clapping* I keep visiting your discussion but haven't had the courage to speak...may i kindly ask about your calculation? i have been wanting to try to link my findings (which I just put in a nice order) in regards to solar flares and the natural disasters that have occured. I am constantly surfing through this site and i am just amazed. I should say I am clapping for you not for what happened. I too am glued to news releases about Japan but am sorting through California. There was a report of San Francisco already having a 2.5 earthquake keeping a close eye on this. Any suggestions appreciated - heather solarflareeffects.wordpress.com/2011/03/13/moving-forward-just-a-little-more-contd/Here is Piers Corbyn's predictions dated 2-21-11 www.weatheraction.com/displayarticle.asp?a=314&c=5
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Post by matt on Mar 16, 2011 17:15:58 GMT
My calculations are complex - No they aren't and I challenge you to prove it. Post your work.
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