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Post by numerouno on May 12, 2012 22:03:33 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on May 13, 2012 1:50:56 GMT
More accurate Numerouno would be the warmest 12 month period since temperature was recorded by instruments.
There is no question that North America is finally warming.....at least for this year.
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Post by sigurdur on May 13, 2012 1:51:35 GMT
And before the summer is out, there will be a large area of drought, which I am not looking forward to experiencing.
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Post by numerouno on May 13, 2012 4:33:50 GMT
More accurate Numerouno would be the warmest 12 month period since temperature was recorded by instruments. There is no question that North America is finally warming.....at least for this year. Well after all this is really just another historical 12 months high temps record in the U.S. Once every 130 years or so one is broken it seems.
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Post by sigurdur on May 13, 2012 14:59:39 GMT
numerouno: I am not concerned with the current temps of the USA. Proxy data shows that it has been this warm during the Halocene numerous times.
What does concern me is the strong correlation between low solar activity and erratic weather.
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Post by sigurdur on May 13, 2012 15:00:19 GMT
In fact, I think there was a paper published about 100 years ago confirming this using the price of wheat.
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Post by sigurdur on May 13, 2012 15:22:42 GMT
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Post by trbixler on May 13, 2012 15:56:27 GMT
Nah anyone knows its the CO2 and the Arctic ice will be gone and Barbecue summers and was a hot winter in Anchorage and lets play hockey.
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Post by w7psk on May 13, 2012 16:02:55 GMT
Hmm it shows Washington as Normal yet the local weather stations have been saying we are well below normal for the last year. Is someone Fudging the data again ?
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Post by glennkoks on May 14, 2012 23:20:16 GMT
numerouno, It's good to see you back. However I would be a hypocrite if I did not point out the obvious. At any given time it is quite easy to point out the extremes in our weather. On any given day I can post links to articles pointing out drought, flooding, record heat or record cold somewhere on this earth. Record U.S. heat is not exactly "global" now is it?
I will remind you that the record warmth in the U.S. was probably mediated by the record cold that swept across Europe last year when the Danube froze over and your Finnish icebreakers had to work overtime.
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Post by sigurdur on May 15, 2012 2:29:55 GMT
North Dakota was warm today, no record warmth but warm.
What is unusual tho is the RH was 13%. For this time of year that is extremely low.
And something else I observed when going to get some parts were 3 pairs of Canadian Honkers next to a nest. We normally have ducks, teal, etc. In all my years living, I have never observed a nesting Canadian Honker here. And when talking to a friend this afternoon, one of the first things he mentioned was a pair of Honkers nesting near his place. He lives on top of the escarpment. He isn't as old as I am, but he had never observed this either till this year.
I live under a major flyway. I have seen Honkers 200 miles north of Winnipeg, not numerous, but I have seen them. Never here before this year.
Once in a great while you will observe a Canvas Back pair, but most of the time they abandon the nest the 3rd week of April and fly further north.
Something is amiss and I have no idea what.
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Post by Pooh on May 15, 2012 4:46:06 GMT
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Post by glennkoks on May 15, 2012 14:07:35 GMT
sigurdur, down here in coastal Texas we have had some really strange weather as well. Freakishly powerful storms not seen on the coast in a long time that were not part of a tropical storm or Hurricane. The storms were so bad at 3:00 am the other morning I almost woke up the kids and sought shelter in an interior hallway. I have been through category one hurricanes that were less intense. Attachments:
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Post by glennkoks on May 15, 2012 14:17:49 GMT
And check out this video of a water spout that hit in Grand Isle Louisiana off to my east. In my lifetime I have seen dozens of these water spouts and without fail every single time they hit land the dissipate almost instantly. This monster goes on to destroy a house as if it were a cat two or three tornado in the nations midsection. I don't know if the dynamics were more akin to that of a tornado than of a water spout but it was certainly unheard of on the coast. So yes sigurdur something is certainly "amiss" down here this year. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q86rx-HSM98
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Post by woodstove on May 15, 2012 23:08:48 GMT
If you're using U.S. history as your metric for climate then you're by definition cherry-picking. Once again: the Holocene has been substantially cooler, long-term, than each of the four interglacials that preceded it. The Eemian interglacial, one before the Holocene, had temps 2 degrees Celsius warmer than today and sea level 15 feet higher. Thus the map of the U.S. that you posted numero would need to be corrected with Florida and other Gulf Coast states, as well as states up and down the Eastern Seaboard, substantially smaller in size. Climate changes. Sea level rises (and falls). It's sad that this upsets you so.
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