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Post by numerouno on Dec 25, 2012 13:22:59 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Dec 25, 2012 14:43:13 GMT
This is to be expected with a meridonal jetstream. Each time the Rossby waves become stationary with blocking high's in the more poleward loop weather sets in for a period. One side is warm and wet the other cold and dry - and on the boundary an 'atmospheric river' feeding large amounts of precipitation to the surface under it. This has just stopped happening in California where the atmospheric river effect is so common it has a name - 'The Pineapple Express'. Only 3 weeks ago it was causing problems in California: "But before that mild weather can take hold, the West must get through this stormy period, which is associated with a big dip, or trough, in the upper-level jet stream winds over the Eastern North Pacific Ocean. The first storm system coming ashore on Wednesday has already been bringing heavy rain and strong winds to northern California, but the atmospheric faucet will really be turned on starting on Thursday, when the moisture plume will be aimed more directly at parts of California and Oregon."www.climatecentral.org/news/atmospheric-river-takes-aim-on-west-coast-warmup-in-plains-15300
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 25, 2012 16:16:35 GMT
Too bad that England has flooding. The location of England seems to subject them to this type of weather frequently.
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Post by numerouno on Dec 25, 2012 17:51:41 GMT
"The location of England seems to subject them to this type of weather frequently." Sigurdur, England is rather more than a location -- it's a whole core country of the empire you Americans so indignatly broke away from, and that was in the good ole 1776 A.D.! Anyways, and incidentally, nobody has seen parts of Western Finland this wet in a falltime as in 2012 (or at least has no person has left anything written about such a condition). Edit: Sigurdur, yes I know this sort of landscape will appeal to you, it's not ND, but the Finnish one I was born in. as a matter of fact. www.mtv3.fi/uutiset/kotimaa.shtml/nain-tulvii-kauhajoki-katso-pysayttavat-ilmakuvat/2012/10/1630990But never mind these minor circumstances. It was only something that was predicted to happen as we get warmer.
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Post by karlox on Dec 25, 2012 17:54:23 GMT
Too bad that England has flooding. The location of England seems to subject them to this type of weather frequently. Which was in fact what caused the pilgrims to migrate and go West looking for a better weather... (that´s the Real history never unvailed) ;D
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Post by karlox on Dec 25, 2012 17:58:38 GMT
Too bad that England has flooding. The location of England seems to subject them to this type of weather frequently. Which was in fact what caused the pilgrims to migrate and go West...
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Post by numerouno on Dec 25, 2012 18:06:35 GMT
What *** U.S.A.? Sorry guv, I must have hit that red button with an "X"!
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 25, 2012 18:11:48 GMT
numerouno: It surprises me that more research has not been done as far as a geo type of record.
In ND, it seems the plains potholes have a wealth of information that has been studied extensively.
I know nothing of Finland, but I can sympathize with the picture. In my area, we had a fall in 1993 that looked very similiar to this. I ended up burning fields that had been swathed because I could not harvest them. Also left lots of spuds in the ground, as it was so wet the lenticils opened and they rotted.
Here we go through wet and dry cycles that are very well shown in the geo records. We hit the apex of the wet cycle during the 1st decade of the 21st century. We are now starting on the downward slope, so will deal with less frequent rain fall.
I don't know about climate model predictions in your area of the world. I know in my area that predictions were for dry weather, and it was exactly the opposite, but concurrent with the long term cycle.
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Post by numerouno on Dec 25, 2012 18:13:53 GMT
"Komrades, the good news is that after the Chief did this thing that he did, there is still this much of land left off Plymouth, Mass!"
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 25, 2012 18:19:42 GMT
numerouno: As long as there is a sliver of land left....that is all that it would take to regain the lost area of the land mass of the USA.
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Post by numerouno on Dec 25, 2012 18:20:28 GMT
"Here we go through wet and dry cycles that are very well shown in the geo records. "
Sigurdur, mate, when and where did you predict this was about to take place as a matter of a natural cycle? Perhaps we will file with a Registrar your definite prediction for the coming years as we're at it?
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Post by numerouno on Dec 25, 2012 18:26:00 GMT
"numerouno: As long as there is a sliver of land left....that is all that it would take to regain the lost area of the land mass of the USA. "
U.S.A? Is that the country that imports even their Presidents from Africa, other stuff from China, and owes big time anywhere else? (sorry I could not help that big Xmasy mood.)
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 25, 2012 18:35:17 GMT
"numerouno: As long as there is a sliver of land left....that is all that it would take to regain the lost area of the land mass of the USA. " U.S.A? Is that the country that imports even their Presidents from Africa, other stuff from China, and owes big time anywhere else? (sorry I could not help that big Xmasy mood.) numerouno: That's ok......I really enjoy the board when you post. You have an extensive knowledge of Europe weather. As far as dollars owed......I agree 100%. Our economy is a basket case and the baskets weave is getting really frayed.
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 25, 2012 18:37:28 GMT
"Here we go through wet and dry cycles that are very well shown in the geo records. " Sigurdur, mate, when and where did you predict this was about to take place as a matter of a natural cycle? Perhaps we will file with a Registrar your definite prediction for the coming years as we're at it? Well, we can start with this one: An epic drought during the mid-1100s dwarfs any drought previously documented for a region that includes areas of Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico, Utah and Wyoming. The six-decade-long drought was remarkable for the absence of very wet years. At the core of the drought was a period of 25 years in which Colorado River flow averaged 15 percent below normal. www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-05/uoa-crs051707.php
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 25, 2012 18:38:02 GMT
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