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Post by sigurdur on Apr 30, 2013 3:01:41 GMT
Started showing up today Glenn.
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Post by icefisher on Apr 30, 2013 20:43:52 GMT
cliffmass.blogspot.com/Saturday, April 27, 2013 The "Pause" in Global Warming: What Does it Mean? Anyone care to take a peak at the entry and briefly comment? A more complete analysis would be helpful. The blog acknowledges pauses in global warming in the past but fails to recompute warming trends now that we know the pauses are a current phenomena. The old argument for computing projected warming from 1980 instead of 1940 was that the natural variation had been overridden. It was a crappy argument then its not even offered as an argument now but no doubt the IPCC will find some way to couch it and bury it in their figures. The argument has gone kaput! All the projected acceleration is disappearing in. . . .uh. . . .a routine pause like it has in antiquity. (antiquity here defined as any day we were not previously computing trends from)
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Post by sigurdur on May 1, 2013 15:02:41 GMT
Warm Arctic Winter means cold NH summer. Too much heat leaves the system as the trop in the Arctic during winter is so shallow.
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Post by AstroMet on May 1, 2013 21:41:44 GMT
Warm Arctic Winter means cold NH summer. Too much heat leaves the system as the trop in the Arctic during winter is so shallow. Well, we can see that even Alaska's climate has followed the cold spring much of the lower 48 states experienced. One Alaskan commented on another site that: "As with the Lower 48 states, spring is late and cold here in central Alaska. Fairbanks reported a record low of 2 degrees F above zero Sunday, breaking the previous record of 8 from 1924. Here in Anchorage, looks like we are around 3 – 4 weeks late with ice of local lakes and snow off the ground. Winter was not particularly hard, but it all changed with a very cold April. And at this point it does not appear things will be warming up soon. So much for man-made global warming due to carbon dioxide emissions." In the Plains through the Rocky Mountains, in fact for most of the country west of the Rockies, the snowy month of April allowed the last four winter storms to complete that winter list by May 1, 2013, where it is now snowing in this region. As for Alaska, it's a record cold spring for sure -> www.adn.com/2013/04/29/2883299/interior-alaska-sees-record-breaking.html
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Post by sigurdur on May 2, 2013 2:46:15 GMT
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Post by AstroMet on May 2, 2013 3:28:40 GMT
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Post by fly guy on May 2, 2013 12:30:11 GMT
My neighbor said he aint waiting any more. its time to plant corn he says View AttachmentOld record of snow in May--shattered today May 2, 2013 7AM, 16" of snow and still coming down. the record for this area was 3". Located 35 miles South of Minneapolis.
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Post by sigurdur on May 2, 2013 13:27:34 GMT
Owatana at 16" or more?
The snow will soak in, but it is a slow soak. I might get in the field before you guys IF it ever warms up.
Snow drifts down to 6' in the shelter belts here, but most of the fields have now melted off.
It isssss May 2nd isn't it?
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Post by sigurdur on May 2, 2013 13:38:00 GMT
The whole northern Hemisphere is cold. The oceans are cooling really fast, and this isn't just a La Nina type of cooling, but a general surface cooling.
Can sure tell that it has been cloudy, as this prevents the UV from penetrating the ocean to keep it warm.
Disruptive weather pattern in store this year as the Greenland high just doesn't want to move. And as demonstrated on the Jet Stream thread, it appears the sun really does control the placement of them.
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Post by sigurdur on May 2, 2013 14:10:57 GMT
codehacker: The teeeeeeny area that NOAA is talking about is already back to normal.
I looked at the map from 03-01-13 and compared it to yesterdays map.
The whole Atlantic is cooling......and the swing has been dramatic. Area around Florida, up east coast etc is blue. Big blue area in central Atlantic, and the Pacific is falling off a cliff.
A cold pattern, with the Jet Streams screwed up because of the low sun activity seems to the the meal of the day @ Flo's Diner.
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Post by sigurdur on May 2, 2013 14:12:36 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on May 2, 2013 14:16:34 GMT
Even the Indian Ocean is cooling, and this has been a "favored" warm spot for a long time.
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Post by dontgetoutmuch on May 2, 2013 17:22:12 GMT
I suspect that for years now, the published temperatures have been... "adjusted" to show warming that is "in the pipeline". As the AGW scam collapses I imagine that the perps will be scrambling to get their data back to something resembling reality.
I think you could call that... negative feedback!
Look for more "cooling" in the future. It would be funny, in a sick sort of way, if the AGW scam and it's attendant fraud actually caused climate scientists to miss the beginning of a cooling period.
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Post by fly guy on May 2, 2013 18:13:00 GMT
Owatana at 16" or more? The snow will soak in, but it is a slow soak. I might get in the field before you guys IF it ever warms up. Snow drifts down to 6' in the shelter belts here, but most of the fields have now melted off. It isssss May 2nd isn't it? Sigurdur, You should be right, most of it will soak in. The local weather guys are calling for a slow warm up. Back to the 60's on Tuesday and Wednesday. Was doing some backhoe work last Tuesday finding some soft frost at about 30 inches. Definitely a later start than normal for us, but our season typically ends around the 10th of October, not unusual to have a light frost as soon as 25th of September, where it dings the low ground pretty hard. So if we have the corn in by the 20th of May we can expect close to trend line yields for our area. How late can you plant corn? The last USDA report showed ND with a significant increase in corn acres for this year, is that still reasonable? Talked to a guy this morning from Ames, IA and he said that he got about 6 inches this AM. He was telling me of a friend of his, from northern Missouri, that had just finished replanting some early planted corn yesterday and he had 3 inches of snow on it this morning. Now he's concerned about some of that, being it didn't get 36 hours of warm soil before the snow fall. If this stuff hangs around much longer can't see how we're going to get 97 million acres planted, let alone achieve 156 bushel national average.
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Post by dontgetoutmuch on May 2, 2013 19:08:41 GMT
Hi Sig, Fly Guy,
Can Mid-West farms handle one more shot of cold before temps return to normal? Not the shot ya'll are getting today... Next week maybe... It looks like the Polar Vortex will be giving one more shot of cold air... This morning I am seeing a massive chunk of cold air streaming South out of the Bearing sea, into the North Pacific. I think that this is probably the final collapse of the polar vortex and the weather pattern will finally start to calm down and shift into a more normal pattern. After this chunk of extremely unseasonably cold air makes the rounds... It is starting to look like your temps at least will return to normal starting in about two weeks...
Note: I don't know where this Arctic blast is going, none of the models I have seen are dealing with it very well. The models I see are calling for a cut off low to form over the Southern AlCan border, but there seems to be a disconnect between that and the mass of cold air streaming south. The models don't really incorporate it at all, and I suppose that it could just sit out in the North Pacific and wobble around and dissipate over time, but from this mornings look, that air mass is moving with a purpose...
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