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Post by flearider on Nov 30, 2018 22:10:26 GMT
we could be doing what the Chinese are .. and buying up land in warmer places ... at least they will be fed to some degree If all north American cropland north of about 40 North were to become seriously impaired, the US could probably still produce enough to feed ourselves and Western Europe. The Muslims would be seriously down to fighting with the Chinese over the "new" Saharan croplands. That should keep them seriously busy for a couple of decades ... and it's a long supply line. hmm the only problem there is they own a lrg part of Australia and parts of Africa .. now there moving into central America .. and the way the usa eats and throws food away means there going to starve soon ..
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Post by missouriboy on Nov 30, 2018 22:41:32 GMT
If all north American cropland north of about 40 North were to become seriously impaired, the US could probably still produce enough to feed ourselves and Western Europe. The Muslims would be seriously down to fighting with the Chinese over the "new" Saharan croplands. That should keep them seriously busy for a couple of decades ... and it's a long supply line. hmm the only problem there is they own a lrg part of Australia and parts of Africa .. now there moving into central America .. and the way the usa eats and throws food away means there going to starve soon .. If the price goes up, less will get thrown away. My $100 per week experiment is still working after 15 years, although it's getting touch and go.
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Post by flearider on Dec 1, 2018 20:37:58 GMT
hmm the only problem there is they own a lrg part of Australia and parts of Africa .. now there moving into central America .. and the way the usa eats and throws food away means there going to starve soon .. If the price goes up, less will get thrown away. My $100 per week experiment is still working after 15 years, although it's getting touch and go. wow seeing as things are so cheap over there compared to here and you grow a lot of your own that does seem very high to me .. we spend £65-80 a week now but we changed our diet and eat only meat and veg (lost 2 stone) we nearly spend the same on gas and electric
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 1, 2018 23:47:06 GMT
If the price goes up, less will get thrown away. My $100 per week experiment is still working after 15 years, although it's getting touch and go. wow seeing as things are so cheap over there compared to here and you grow a lot of your own that does seem very high to me .. we spend £65-80 a week now but we changed our diet and eat only meat and veg (lost 2 stone) we nearly spend the same on gas and electric That $100 per week includes everything for the house as well (paper, soap, etc) and my dear wife is heavy on veggies and fruit. I insist on the meat. Actually, we don't grow much of our own food. I'm just preparing and testing in case we need to. All utilities (electric, gas, water, sewer) cost us about $60 per week averaged over the year. One of our largest costs is insurance. Homeowners and auto insurance have been skyrocketing, On the other hand, gasoline prices have dropped nearly 30% in the last few months. We are down to just over $2 per gallon. Amazing what expanded production and one dead Saudi journalist can do. You would have never seen that under a Democrat administration. We would still be saving Gaia even though Gaia was never asked.
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Post by Ratty on Dec 3, 2018 6:45:24 GMT
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Post by jopo on Dec 8, 2018 9:10:44 GMT
The extracts from this paper are mind blowing. Not that I dont believe them. I do. But there now seems to be two different factions within NASA and NCAR.
Of late we are seeing the mixed messages coming from NASA.
Interesting now that NASA and NCAR are using the influence from space to forecast ENSO events,
HIGH statistical significance of our SUN and OUR oceans MAJOR indices.
Something that has been mocked for so long by so many.
The egg on the face of many alarmist seems to be reaching farther out now. NASA and NCAR perhaps the FUNDING bucket is getting thin. Perhaps a new approach to entice funding??
From the 2.20 mark to 2.55
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Post by jopo on Dec 8, 2018 9:14:52 GMT
arxiv.org/pdf/1812.02692.pdfConclusion We have shown a strong correlation between solar and tropospheric variability, in that swings from El Ni˜no to La Ni˜na are related to the phase of the solar cycle’s “fiducial clock,” and that that clock does not run from the canonical solar minimum or maximum, but instead resets when all old cycle flux is gone from the solar disk. While the exact mechanism remains to be elucidated, changes in cosmic ray flux appear to the be the driver of these ENSO swings Finally, in the absence of sensitivity to solar-driven CRF variations in current coupled climate models, we have a year or so to wait to see if this indicator pans out. However, should the coming terminator be followed by such an ENSO swing then we must seriously consider the capability of coupled global terrestrial modeling efforts to capture “step-function” events, and assess how complex the Sun-Earth connection is, with particular attention to the relationship between incoming cosmic rays and clouds/ precipitation over our oceans.Using direct observation and proxies of solar activity going back six decades we can, with high statistical significance, demonstrate an apparent correlation between the solar cycle terminations and the largest swings of Earth’s oceanic indices—a previously overlooked correspondence I can see NASA eventually rinse their hands of CO2 to recapture their integrity!Using direct observation and proxies of solar activity going back six decades we can, with high statistical significance, demonstrate an apparent correlation between the solar cycle terminations and the largest swings of Earth’s oceanic indices—a previously overlooked correspondenceAs some one else mentioned, I can see NASA eventually rinse their hands of CO2 to recapture their integrity!
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Post by nautonnier on Dec 11, 2018 15:45:57 GMT
From Tallbloke's Talkshop... " Why Phi? – a luni-solar link
This was a surprise, but whatever the interpretation, the numbers speak for themselves.
‘Richard Christopher Carrington determined the solar rotation rate from low latitude sunspots in the 1850s and arrived at 25.38 days for the sidereal rotation period. Sidereal rotation is measured relative to the stars, but because the Earth is orbiting the Sun, we see this period as 27.2753 days.’ – Wikipedia.
What happens if we relate this period to the lunar draconic year?"tallbloke.wordpress.com/2018/12/11/why-phi-a-luni-solar-link/The answer is more than intriguing
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 11, 2018 21:33:59 GMT
From Tallbloke's Talkshop... " Why Phi? – a luni-solar link
This was a surprise, but whatever the interpretation, the numbers speak for themselves.
‘Richard Christopher Carrington determined the solar rotation rate from low latitude sunspots in the 1850s and arrived at 25.38 days for the sidereal rotation period. Sidereal rotation is measured relative to the stars, but because the Earth is orbiting the Sun, we see this period as 27.2753 days.’ – Wikipedia.
What happens if we relate this period to the lunar draconic year?"tallbloke.wordpress.com/2018/12/11/why-phi-a-luni-solar-link/The answer is more than intriguing And from a link at that site. We still don't know "who" placed those stones at stonehenge some 4000 to 5000 years ago ... but it wasn't any dumb cavemen. tallbloke.wordpress.com/2015/01/09/robin-heath-stonehenge-the-marriage-of-the-sun-and-moon/
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Post by nautonnier on Dec 12, 2018 2:00:47 GMT
From Tallbloke's Talkshop... " Why Phi? – a luni-solar link
This was a surprise, but whatever the interpretation, the numbers speak for themselves.
‘Richard Christopher Carrington determined the solar rotation rate from low latitude sunspots in the 1850s and arrived at 25.38 days for the sidereal rotation period. Sidereal rotation is measured relative to the stars, but because the Earth is orbiting the Sun, we see this period as 27.2753 days.’ – Wikipedia.
What happens if we relate this period to the lunar draconic year?"tallbloke.wordpress.com/2018/12/11/why-phi-a-luni-solar-link/The answer is more than intriguing And from a link at that site. We still don't know "who" placed those stones at stonehenge some 4000 to 5000 years ago ... but it wasn't any dumb cavemen. tallbloke.wordpress.com/2015/01/09/robin-heath-stonehenge-the-marriage-of-the-sun-and-moon/Yes it is a little of a mystery. I have been there many times including several times before it was all fenced off. So you have 'uneducated tribesmen' just into the initial pleasant subsistence farming level. Thinking I know what I'll walk 100 miles into those mountains and cut out a HUGE boulder and shape it then me and a couple of hundred mates will drag the stone all the way back to Salisbury plain. And again, And again And again..... This might take more than the offer of a couple of shiny heads... And someone has to do the thinking.. Not sure if there was a MS Project - Neolithic Pro then.
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Post by Ratty on Dec 12, 2018 6:53:03 GMT
[ Snip ] So you have 'uneducated tribesmen' just into the initial pleasant subsistence farming level. Thinking I know what I'll walk 100 miles into those mountains and cut out a HUGE boulder and shape it then me and a couple of hundred mates will drag the stone all the way back to Salisbury plain. And again, And again And again..... This might take more than the offer of a couple of shiny heads... And someone has to do the thinking.. Not sure if there was a MS Project - Neolithic Pro then. From memory, I think Project was still in beta ** then ...... ** meaning it had been released for the end users to find all the bugs.
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Post by nautonnier on Dec 12, 2018 12:51:11 GMT
From memory, I think Project was still in beta ** then ...... ** meaning it had been released for the end users to find all the bugs. Actually a wooden 'henge' was built first - the early fanboi release... news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/07/100723-stonehenge-woodhenge-twin-timber-circle-gaffney-science/Then on the Stonehenge site itself went through multiple iterations over a couple of thousand years. To me that is the most interesting part. The sheer persistence. That is the work on Stonehenge which started around 5 centuries before the Pyramids in Egypt was so consistent and long. There has to be a good reason for all that expenditure of effort by people whose lifespan was probably 30 to 40 years.
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Post by acidohm on Dec 12, 2018 20:26:52 GMT
** meaning it had been released for the end users to find all the bugs. Actually a wooden 'henge' was built first - the early fanboi release... news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/07/100723-stonehenge-woodhenge-twin-timber-circle-gaffney-science/Then on the Stonehenge site itself went through multiple iterations over a couple of thousand years. To me that is the most interesting part. The sheer persistence. That is the work on Stonehenge which started around 5 centuries before the Pyramids in Egypt was so consistent and long. There has to be a good reason for all that expenditure of effort by people whose lifespan was probably 30 to 40 years. Although Stonehenge is not alone in Wiltshire for neolithic construction....Avebury circle is less immense stone wise but large in area, Silbury hill is the largest purpose built structure in Europe (apparently 🤔) www.britainexpress.com/counties/wiltshire/ancient/index.htmFigures engraved on hillsides, barrows....many many hill forts. Even today places like Glastonbury are a haven for the esoterical and open minded (so....hippies....) However if you ever visit the place, id challenge you to not sense some sort of peacefullness or serenity in the beauty of the area. Theres nothing dramatic like grand canyon, but there is something magic about it... (Im taking my sandals off and extiguishing the incense...normal broadcasts will now resume...)
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Post by nautonnier on Dec 12, 2018 20:53:10 GMT
Actually a wooden 'henge' was built first - the early fanboi release... news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/07/100723-stonehenge-woodhenge-twin-timber-circle-gaffney-science/Then on the Stonehenge site itself went through multiple iterations over a couple of thousand years. To me that is the most interesting part. The sheer persistence. That is the work on Stonehenge which started around 5 centuries before the Pyramids in Egypt was so consistent and long. There has to be a good reason for all that expenditure of effort by people whose lifespan was probably 30 to 40 years. Although Stonehenge is not alone in Wiltshire for neolithic construction....Avebury circle is less immense stone wise but large in area, Silbury hill is the largest purpose built structure in Europe (apparently 🤔) www.britainexpress.com/counties/wiltshire/ancient/index.htmFigures engraved on hillsides, barrows....many many hill forts. Even today places like Glastonbury are a haven for the esoterical and open minded (so....hippies....) However if you ever visit the place, id challenge you to not sense some sort of peacefullness or serenity in the beauty of the area. Theres nothing dramatic like grand canyon, but there is something magic about it... (Im taking my sandals off and extiguishing the incense...normal broadcasts will now resume...) I must admit Silbury Hill is interesting having climbed to the top of it then think it was made by layering turf ** having tried to lay a lawn I have some idea of the effort involved. Wasn't there one of the people saying: "You want to do WHAT???" **Turf == Sod for the US audience. Sod as an entirely different colloquial meaning in UK
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Post by nautonnier on Dec 12, 2018 20:57:08 GMT
It’s the gradient, stupid!
Today I am going to show you how solar variability affects Earth’s rotation speed, and why it is important. This issue was raised several times in 2010, but it is not understood by mostwattsupwiththat.com/2018/12/12/its-the-gradient-stupid/?cn-reloaded=1Pidgey a member from the 'old board' used to comment regularly on LOD and the inertial impacts on the climate. This is an interesting read.
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