zaphod
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Post by zaphod on Oct 13, 2013 18:18:46 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 13, 2013 19:22:35 GMT
The forecasts that the article uses are actually flagged as 'extremely unlikely' in AR5. The Medieval Warm Period which lasted for over a century did not result in London flooding and as I have said before Amsterdam was founded at sea level in 1300 at the end of the MWP and it is still at sea level. If things get warmer they get better. This is why all the warm periods in history have been called 'Optimum'. Holocene, Minoan, Roman all optima. Each one less warm than the previous as the current warm period is less warm than the medieval warm period. So what climate change is likely to be an issue of concern? The warm periods are optima with more food, better health, peaceful times with less wars. The cold periods between have famines and wars. So it really doesn't matter what you do if things are going to get warmer - wherever you are it will improve. The sub-tropical areas may move north a few degrees but the maximum temperatures at the tropics will remain steady. However, what if it gets cold? - The wiggle watchers Scarfetta, and now Curry, are saying that the oscillations in the climate - NAO, PDO, ENSO, etc have been additive in their different cycle lengths all peaking and now they are dropping away from their warm peaks.
- The Jetstream watchers are saying the weather is changing to cold due to the movement of the jetstreams
- The solar scientists and astrophysicists are starting to agree with Landscheidt and Fairbridge and Wilson, with papers on the Sun going quiet due to its epitrochoid orbit and retrograde motion causing a 'phase catastrophe' and a drop in energy from the Sun,
- Even Leif is expecting SC25 to be very low - Dalton level or lower.
- The Russians have of course been forecasting cold for sometime
- And not to forget Theo - also consistently forecasting cold
So given that cold is the least preferable change and it may not be unlikely as there has been no 'warming' for 17 years. What to do when it gets cold say the winter freeze line through to May is around Iowa (Spain) with frosts starting in September at the same line - food is in short supply - the energy supplies of the world have been crippled by greens stopping drilling/mining and only useless CAGW windmills? Live somewhere warm, NOT in a large town or city, where food is grown locally ensure a level of self-sufficiency not to 'the preppers' level but ready to cope without help from the rest of the world. Make use of the second amendment and get something useful for hunting and defense. Try to work out what you can do that would act as a barter if everything truly falls over. But survival is always water shelter food the rest is icing on the cake. |
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 13, 2013 22:27:56 GMT
The old fashioned barter was wheat. A peck was worth a lot of labor.
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Post by glennkoks on Oct 13, 2013 22:56:06 GMT
The new fashioned barter, at least here in Texas seems to be 223 rounds. I know a guy who paid for his home remodeling with 223 ammo. Some prefer it to cash.
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 13, 2013 23:24:37 GMT
The new fashioned barter, at least here in Texas seems to be 223 rounds. I know a guy who paid for his home remodeling with 223 ammo. Some prefer it to cash. And they can't be traced by the IRS |
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Post by Ratty on Oct 15, 2013 3:36:10 GMT
The new fashioned barter, at least here in Texas seems to be 223 rounds. I know a guy who paid for his home remodeling with 223 ammo. Some prefer it to cash. And they can't be traced by the IRS But they can be traced by CSI Texas.  |
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Post by cuttydyer on Oct 15, 2013 12:26:22 GMT
My response/preparation to weather/climate change over last few years is to dramatically increase the amount of seasoned wood I have available to burn in the stoves. The graph below displays the last 7 years of HADCRUT4 winter temps at my band of latitude (50°N)  The green 0 line is the 1961-1990 average, Anywhere the graph or trend crosses the green line it is colder than the 1961-1990 average (It was pretty cold in the 60s and 70s). Bizarrely, my two young children have never known a Winter without snow!!!   Independent newspaper article from March 2000 "Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past" "According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event". "Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said." Link: www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.htmlThe above graph is courtesy of the "Sunshine Hours" blog: sunshinehours.wordpress.com/ |
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 15, 2013 12:49:58 GMT
Yes as Steve Goddard has pointed out. No child in school now has experienced global warming as temperatures have been flat for 17 years. I bet no child in school now would _say_ that though as they have been brainwashed otherwise.
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