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Post by sigurdur on Sept 9, 2014 2:56:25 GMT
3.606. Will it break 3.5?
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Post by neilhamp on Sept 9, 2014 9:16:56 GMT
Sig, It hit 3.583 the day before 3.606 Perhaps the recovery has started?
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Post by Ratty on Sept 9, 2014 12:44:26 GMT
Now 3.58913, probably indiscernible from 3.60614?
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Post by sigurdur on Sept 9, 2014 14:09:40 GMT
Sig, It hit 3.583 the day before 3.606 Perhaps the recovery has started? Dang, I missed the low ice area?....
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Post by cuttydyer on Sept 9, 2014 15:31:46 GMT
BBC reports: Fabled Franklin Arctic ship found Sir John Franklin and his crew were captured in this 1847 painting by W Turner Smith called The End In Sight One of two British explorer ships that vanished in the Arctic more than 160 years ago has been found, Canada's prime minister says. Stephen Harper said it was unclear which ship had been found, but photo evidence confirmed it was one of them. Sir John Franklin led the two ships and 129 men in 1845 to chart the Northwest Passage in the Canadian Arctic. The expedition's disappearance shortly after became one of the great mysteries of the age of Victorian exploration. The loss of HMS Erebus and HMS Terror prompted one of largest searches in history, running from 1848 to 1859. The search resulted in the discovery of the Northwest Passage, which runs from the Atlantic to the Pacific through the Arctic archipelago. A team of Canadian divers and archaeologists has been trying to find the ships since 2008. Link: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29131757
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Post by cuttydyer on Sept 10, 2014 5:03:40 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Sept 10, 2014 14:36:16 GMT
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Post by dontgetoutmuch on Sept 10, 2014 15:07:37 GMT
Sig,
That picture explains that lack of melting! Al should have known that going to the Arctic Circle would cause an early freeze up!
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Post by Ufasuperstorm on Sept 10, 2014 16:48:45 GMT
This is very significant. 2014 had the second smallest PIOMAS volume loss. (01/01/14-08/31/2014) The excuses during the next few years will be fun to watch as we begin the negative phase of the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation .
1981 -15.902 1998 -15.715 1993 -15.709 1999 -15.548 2012 -15.484 1987 -15.345 2010 -15.262 1991 -15.113 2007 -15.092 2009 -15.065 2008 -14.964 2013 -14.816 2011 -14.749 2002 -14.747 1985 -14.724 1994 -14.695 1995 -14.694 1980 -14.516 2000 -14.474 1997 -14.456 2003 -14.415 2005 -14.337 2004 -14.317 1979 -14.303 1983 -14.119 1988 -13.956 1984 -13.94 1989 -13.807 1982 -13.719 2006 -13.681 1990 -13.544 1992 -13.465 1986 -13.443 2001 -13.265 2014 -12.846 1996 -12.639
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Post by nonentropic on Sept 10, 2014 18:54:53 GMT
Did it have less to start with?
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Post by Ratty on Sept 11, 2014 0:11:39 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Sept 11, 2014 2:14:07 GMT
Did it have less to start with? Yes, it did. But the low loss of old ice this season is important in that ensuing years are starting with older "seasoned" ice.
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Post by neilhamp on Sept 12, 2014 3:00:35 GMT
Sig,
"It hit 3.583 the day before 3.606 Perhaps the recovery has started?"
It is still dropping 3.542 today! I can't see it breaking 3.5 Oops! Now reading 3.483. Still doesn't invalidate the analysis below
In which case 2 people got it right 8 of us estimated too low and 11 of us estimated too high
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Post by Ratty on Sept 12, 2014 23:35:06 GMT
[ Snip ] I can't see it breaking 3.5 [ Snip ] Oops?
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Post by nonentropic on Sept 13, 2014 4:40:51 GMT
(snip) what is snip?
and what could it possibly be that is so bad from a Ratty?
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