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Post by sigurdur on Sept 29, 2015 2:40:12 GMT
Yep, because that warm blob kept the normal storm track to the south of where I live. Crap!!!!!
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 29, 2015 18:55:01 GMT
View AttachmentIf anyone can confirm this is a genuine graph, Mr Flearider can give himself a pat on the back in a couple of months...... View Attachment Joe Bastardi was showing that graph and the one after it that lowers the peak significantly but still keeps the cold plunge. Interesting to watch
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Post by douglavers on Oct 3, 2015 22:48:08 GMT
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Post by tobyglyn on Oct 4, 2015 4:11:14 GMT
As I type this at 3:09 PM it's 32.6C in Sydney, 23.3C in Melbourne and 32.1C way up in tropical Darwin. Weather for Sunday 4 October City observations Sydney Now32.6° W 28km/h Max 35° Hot and sunny. 0.0mm rain since 9am in Sydney. Melbourne Now23.3° WSW 9km/h Max 26° Sunny. 0.0mm rain since 9am in Melbourne. Brisbane Now28.1° NNE 7km/h Max 29° Sunny. 0.0mm rain since 9am in Brisbane. Perth Now22.7° WNW 17km/h Max 23° Possible late shower. 0.0mm rain since 9am in Perth. Adelaide Now27.8° W 9km/h Max 31° Partly cloudy. 0.0mm rain since 9am in Adelaide. Hobart Now21.5° NW 28km/h Max 20° Sunny. 0.0mm rain since 9am in Hobart. Canberra Now27.7° NW 32km/h Max 28° Mostly sunny. 0.0mm rain since 9am in Canberra. Darwin Now32.1° NNW 28km/h Max 34° Sunny. 0.0mm rain since 9am in Darwin.
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Post by tobyglyn on Oct 4, 2015 23:15:28 GMT
What a difference a day makes! Melbourne is forecast to be 35C today and Adelaide even hotter at 36C. Both easily beating tropical Darwin which is expected to be just 33C. Now a few hours later at 2:59 PM and Sydney has come from behind to take the lead at 36.5C, easily beating Melbourne's 33.1 Adelaide's 35.1 and Darwin's 33.8C
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 7, 2015 17:24:08 GMT
What a difference a day makes! Melbourne is forecast to be 35C today and Adelaide even hotter at 36C. Both easily beating tropical Darwin which is expected to be just 33C. Now a few hours later at 2:59 PM and Sydney has come from behind to take the lead at 36.5C, easily beating Melbourne's 33.1 Adelaide's 35.1 and Darwin's 33.8C It would be interesting to convert that to joules per kilogram rather than the intensive temperature. I think you will find that Darwin ranks well above Sydney in atmospheric heat content. Use the correct metrics.
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Post by nonentropic on Oct 7, 2015 18:19:35 GMT
Still hot though. Even in NZ its heated a lot and its big news, hot this hot that in media. But that all sits on the tail of a stunningly cold 6 months of winter. 3 warm days is not a climate trend. The spinners are out and about. Its all about how cold the next 18 months become because the hottest year ever is starting to become a little hard for people keep believing and 1C drop is likely to be very apparent to all. There is a latent anti CAGW group in society currently they can say nothing due to vilification by the left leaning press but should a crack appear in the story it will all flip into ration.
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Post by douglavers on Oct 7, 2015 21:24:34 GMT
According to the satellites, end Sept planetary temp was +0.25 degC On the graph, this is pretty well the same as most recent months. www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/With the onset of an apparently powerful EL Nino, one would have thought that temperatures should be plumbing new heights, to mix my metaphors. The interesting point is that when EL Ninos fade, they are normally replaced with strong La Ninas, with a large fall in planetary temperatures. +0.25 degC is not a good starting point for that process. Developing cold in 2016 might be given a large boost. Attachments:
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Post by Ratty on Oct 7, 2015 22:10:01 GMT
"plumbing new heights" ....
Well Doug, we are in the Southern Hemisphere. Down here, that may well be the correct terminology.
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 9, 2015 2:28:23 GMT
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Post by neilhamp on Oct 9, 2015 3:22:00 GMT
Doug,
The RSS data does not seem to be showing any large rise with this El Nino This is a bit odd because the previous big El Nino in 1998 shows a very large peak
We can only await the 2016/17 La Nina which will almost certainly occur Don't forget we are also entering a solar minimum and the AMO is also starting to fall!
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 9, 2015 11:48:52 GMT
If only these once worthy institutions could be trusted. The lack of ethics in science and particularly in government funded science has gone from worrying to obscene
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Post by acidohm on Oct 11, 2015 20:14:50 GMT
These are not the same source...so what do they mean??
TOPEX/Poseidon (T/P) was an altimetric mission jointly collaborated by NASA and CNES (French space agency). It launched August 10, 1992 and began data collection at September 25, 1992. T/P operated until October 18, 2005 and collected 481 cycles of data. T/P was capable of measuring significant wave height, sigma0, dry and wet troposphere and ionosphere, which can be used to calculate sea surface height and anomalies and total electron content.
The Ocean Surface Topography Mission (OSTM) on the Jason-2 satellite[1] is an international Earth observation satellite mission that continues the sea surface height measurements begun in 1992 by the joint NASA/CNES TOPEX/Poseidon mission[2] and followed by the NASA/CNES Jason-1 mission launched in 2001.[3]
Like its two predecessors, OSTM/Jason-2 uses high-precision ocean altimetry to measure the distance between the satellite and the ocean surface to within a few centimeters. These very accurate observations of variations in sea surface height—also known as ocean topography—provide information about global sea level, the speed and direction of ocean currents, and heat stored in the ocean.
The graph is in mm so guess these depict sea surface height which article confirms....
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 14, 2015 13:05:47 GMT
These are not the same source...so what do they mean?? TOPEX/Poseidon (T/P) was an altimetric mission jointly collaborated by NASA and CNES (French space agency). It launched August 10, 1992 and began data collection at September 25, 1992. T/P operated until October 18, 2005 and collected 481 cycles of data. T/P was capable of measuring significant wave height, sigma0, dry and wet troposphere and ionosphere, which can be used to calculate sea surface height and anomalies and total electron content. The Ocean Surface Topography Mission (OSTM) on the Jason-2 satellite[1] is an international Earth observation satellite mission that continues the sea surface height measurements begun in 1992 by the joint NASA/CNES TOPEX/Poseidon mission[2] and followed by the NASA/CNES Jason-1 mission launched in 2001.[3] Like its two predecessors, OSTM/Jason-2 uses high-precision ocean altimetry to measure the distance between the satellite and the ocean surface to within a few centimeters. These very accurate observations of variations in sea surface height—also known as ocean topography—provide information about global sea level, the speed and direction of ocean currents, and heat stored in the ocean. The graph is in mm so guess these depict sea surface height which article confirms.... Both of these approaches have significant problems in allowing for the reflections of their 'precise altimeters' from the high both in feet and reflectivity of the flat surfaces container ships and oil rigs. As the size and number of ships increase so do the errors due to their presence. I challenge anyone to justify measurements of sea level to a claimed accuracy of hundredths of millimeters. They may have that precision but certainly not the accuracy.
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Post by acidohm on Oct 14, 2015 15:48:47 GMT
I think they just used these cos the colours look nice and white.....
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