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Post by nautonnier on Oct 14, 2019 9:51:48 GMT
Thanks Missouriboy, and yes, those who are prepared will be able to survive this grand minimum, however, many are simply not prepared and the consequences of that will be seen over the next 30+ years. Actuarially, my odds of seeing the final thaw are probably low. Hopefully, my son will keep the heat on and the larder full so I may continue the observations. I am requesting a hot tub, together with a supply of parchment and old fashioned ink just in case. You may find clay and a stylus so you can fire the clay after recording your thoughts which will have a longer life than parchment and is a real WORM system whereas parchments will become damaged with reading.
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Post by Ratty on Oct 14, 2019 12:01:09 GMT
[ Snip ] You may find clay and a stylus so you can fire the clay after recording your thoughts which will have a longer life than parchment and is a real WORM system whereas parchments will become damaged with reading. As God said to Moses: Keep taking the tablets.
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Post by missouriboy on Oct 14, 2019 13:59:25 GMT
[ Snip ] You may find clay and a stylus so you can fire the clay after recording your thoughts which will have a longer life than parchment and is a real WORM system whereas parchments will become damaged with reading. As God said to Moses: Keep taking the tablets. The "firing" part may become an issue.
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Post by AstroMet on Oct 19, 2019 12:11:34 GMT
They left out the starving part. Explains why they're exploring. Yes, and they need to continue to 'explore,' considering all the anthropogenic global warming nonsense they've been wasting decades on playing with their miserable and very faulty climate models. Play time has been far too long and the bell is about to ring for them. For more on why there is no evidence for anthropogenic climate change: See ->>> arxiv.org/pdf/1907.00165.pdf
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Post by Ratty on Oct 19, 2019 12:58:02 GMT
Explains why they're exploring. Yes, and they need to continue to 'explore,' considering all the anthropogenic global warming nonsense they've been wasting decades on playing with their miserable and very faulty climate models. Play time has been far too long and the bell is about to ring for them. For more on why there is no evidence for anthropogenic climate change: See ->>> arxiv.org/pdf/1907.00165.pdfIt's worth reading the comments on WUWT. Example:
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Post by AstroMet on Oct 20, 2019 18:00:50 GMT
Yes, and they need to continue to 'explore,' considering all the anthropogenic global warming nonsense they've been wasting decades on playing with their miserable and very faulty climate models. Play time has been far too long and the bell is about to ring for them. For more on why there is no evidence for anthropogenic climate change: See ->>> arxiv.org/pdf/1907.00165.pdfIt's worth reading the comments on WUWT. Example: LOL! Everyone's an 'expert' these days. That comment is the standard one from non-forecasters and those who do not know what they are talking about when it comes to the Earth's climate. Always talking silliness about the 'driver' when it is obvious that the driver of the Earth's climate is the Sun, which itself controls temperature. It is a fact that clouds increase as the Sun's magnetic and ultraviolet activity decreases. This not only allows the cold of space closer to the layers of Earth's atmosphere, but the increase and penetration of cosmic rays due to the weaker heliosphere of the Sun also allows for cloud nucleation and the increase of clouds worldwide. Moreover, stratocumulus clouds worldwide reflect up seven percent of the energy and light from the Sun and these are the very same clouds that constantly frustrate the climate modellers (including the models used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) because they cannot replicate them in their ever-warming-Earth computer models and that is why they avoid admitting the obvious and so are very afraid of global cooling, because it proves their anthropogenic predictions totally wrong.
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Post by missouriboy on Oct 24, 2019 3:22:49 GMT
This is the monthly time series of flux and spotless days (or flux / no flux) for two 3-Cycle solar series ... SC11-13 (1867-1901) and SC23-25 (1996-?). SC23 was longer than SC11, so the the series are offset down year by about 6 months. Events that are marked by winter periods of low solar (high spotless days) are amazingly coincident with notorious winters ... 1875-76, 1886-87, 1899-1900, 2009-10. Note that these were all period of rapid change. The 2009-10 winter was marked by a very rapid up-ramp in flux (a plunge in spotless days) and geomagnetic activity and the onset of La Nina. Note where winter 2021-22 (Astro's God Awful Winter-La Nina combo?) lies relative to where SC25 should(?) kick in if the Flux-spotless sequence is lagged about 6 months. Not to say it will, but, our spotless sun could last another year or so. I've copied and re-pasted Astro's barycenter diagram from earlier in this thread.
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 28, 2019 11:06:26 GMT
"The Real Climate Crisis Is Not Global Warming, It Is Cooling, And It May Have Already Started
By Allan MacRae and Joseph D’Aleo, October 2019
Introduction – Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming – A Failed Hypothesis
The Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming (“CAGW”, aka “Global Warming”, “Climate Change”, “Climate Crisis”, “Climate Emergency”) scare is a failed hypothesis and the greatest scientific fraud in history. Global warming alarmism has been promoted by political extremists and believed in by their gullible acolytes for decades, even though there is no credible evidence that catastrophic global warming exists in reality, and ample evidence that the CAGW hypothesis has been falsified.
The failed CAGW hypothesis assumes that increasing atmospheric CO2 from fossil fuel combustion drives dangerous runaway global warming. The alleged evidence for this fraud is climate computer models that greatly over-predict current observed warming, typically by 300 to 500%. These climate models deliberately employ excessively high assumed values of climate sensitivity to CO2, and are designed to create false alarm.
Global warming has slowed since the mid-1990’s, so the climate alarmists alleged that increased atmospheric CO2 from combustion of fossil fuels will cause wilder, more chaotic weather. There is ample evidence that this allegation is also false. Weather has actually become less chaotic."More here with comments: wattsupwiththat.com/2019/10/27/the-real-climate-crisis-is-not-global-warming-it-is-cooling-and-it-may-have-already-started/
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Post by missouriboy on Oct 28, 2019 15:43:31 GMT
Middle Earth awaits the southward shift in the corn belt. Goodbye Iowa ... hello Missouri. Of course, the areas south of the Missouri River will never produce the surpluses of the glaciated soil profiles to the north. But North Missouri farmland will command premium prices.
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Post by icefisher on Oct 30, 2019 14:57:33 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Oct 30, 2019 15:52:28 GMT
Seems to me that they are still putting a lot of "faith" in that atmospheric-oceanic carbon balance as a primary driver.
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 30, 2019 17:42:09 GMT
Seems to me that they are still putting a lot of "faith" in that atmospheric-oceanic carbon balance as a primary driver. They are. While doing so, they ignore past proxy data. CO2 is NOT a source of heat, it is a radiative gas. The ONLY source of heat is Ole Sol. I don't care how much insulation one has in a building, if the outside energy becomes less, the building WILL and does cool. That is WHY we have furnaces.
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Post by AstroMet on Nov 6, 2019 6:46:00 GMT
Seems to me that they are still putting a lot of "faith" in that atmospheric-oceanic carbon balance as a primary driver. They are. While doing so, they ignore past proxy data. CO2 is NOT a source of heat, it is a radiative gas. The ONLY source of heat is Ole Sol. I don't care how much insulation one has in a building, if the outside energy becomes less, the building WILL and does cool. That is WHY we have furnaces. And keep your furnaces fired up this winter Sigurdur, because winter this year is early as I forecasted. And, you will need your furnaces even more so during the long polar vortex heavy snow and ice winter of 2021-2022 too.
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Post by nautonnier on Nov 11, 2019 11:49:25 GMT
" Scientists: Climate Records ‘Correlate Well’ With Solar Modulation…A Grand Solar Minimum Expected By 2030 By Kenneth Richard on 11. November 2019
International and NASA solar scientists find their Total Solar Irradiance reconstruction extending to 1700 can “correlate well” with Earth’s global temperature records, including a positive net TSI trend during 1986-2008. A new Grand Solar Minimum is expected to commence during the 2030s. Surface climate records that have been uncorrupted by coastal (ocean-air)/urbanization biases suggest there has been a long-term oscillation in temperature since 1900, with peaks during the 1920s-1940s and again during recent decades (Lansner and Pepke Pedersen, 2018)."notrickszone.com/2019/11/11/scientists-climate-records-correlate-well-with-solar-modulation-a-grand-solar-minimum-expected-by-2030/
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Post by anse on Nov 17, 2019 20:45:42 GMT
" One challenge for researchers working to predict the Sun’s activities is that scientists don’t yet completely understand the inner workings of our star." ... some things terrestrial too. One challenge for researchers working to predict the Sun’s activities is that scientists don’t yet completely understand the inner workings of our star. That’s because the hygrogen to helium camp fire model of the Sun is wrong.
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