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Post by missouriboy on Mar 6, 2018 7:14:49 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 6, 2018 16:41:29 GMT
The USA has a $20+ trillion hole to recover from. One HAS to stop spending money that one doesn't have. None of those programs are a loss, as a state can fund them if it so desires. It is long past time that the Feds stop funding states issues.
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 7, 2018 0:30:55 GMT
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031018296001496The loess/paleosol sequence in loess layer L1 (Malan Loess) is investigated in three regions of the Western Chinese Loess Plateau. Nine pedogenic layers are found in L1 and three proxy climate indices, magnetic susceptibility (MS), grain size (GS) and CaCO3 content, are measured at intervals of 0.2 kyr in order to recover records of monsoon climate variations. Time series of MS, GS and CaCO3 content document the high resolution history of summer and winter monsoon climate variations over the last 75 kyr. The records show a high degree of similarity to the warm interstadials recorded in ice cores from Greenland and the Antarctic, and with Heinrich events in the North Atlantic, during the last glacial cycle. Bond cycles are also recorded by the Chinese loess records. Overall, our results indicate that numerous rapid changes in climate occurred in China during the last glacial cycle, but that the range of climate variations was smaller than recorded in Greenland.
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 7, 2018 0:56:26 GMT
Abstract Recent evidence from both observations and model simulations suggests that an Arctic sea ice reduction tends to cause a negative Arctic Oscillation (AO) phase with severe winter weather in the Northern Hemisphere, which is often preceded by weakening of the stratospheric polar vortex. Although this evidence hints at a stratospheric involvement in the Arctic-midlatitude climate linkage, the exact role of the stratosphere remains elusive. Here we show that tropospheric AO response to the Arctic sea ice reduction largely disappears when suppressing the stratospheric wave mean flow interactions in numerical experiments. The results confirm a crucial role of the stratosphere in the sea ice impacts on the midlatitudes by coupling between the stratospheric polar vortex and planetary-scale waves. Those results and consistency with observation-based evidence suggest that a recent Arctic sea ice loss is linked to midlatitudes extreme weather events associated with the negative AO phase. onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2016GL068330/full/
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 7, 2018 1:11:32 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Mar 7, 2018 1:30:07 GMT
I recall reading, some years ago, that an ice-free Arctic could be the precursor to an full-blown ice age. Can't remember whether it was a paper or opinion or article.
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 7, 2018 1:55:42 GMT
Probably a paper. During the coming Ice Age scare.
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Post by blustnmtn on Mar 7, 2018 13:55:30 GMT
I have often read that the inevitable ice age transition is way off in the future and actually takes a long time to happen. I have learned to be skeptical of all pronouncements regarding events that have no contemporary witnesses. I'm leaning toward the dramatic state change that leads to glaciation. Mile+ thick glaciation likely takes a long, long time but the conditions for it might happen before a witness's eyes!
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Post by acidohm on Mar 7, 2018 16:46:26 GMT
I have often read that the inevitable ice age transition is way off in the future and actually takes a long time to happen. I have learned to be skeptical of all pronouncements regarding events that have no contemporary witnesses. I'm leaning toward the dramatic state change that leads to glaciation. Mile+ thick glaciation likely takes a long, long time but the conditions for it might happen before a witness's eyes! One thing for sure, it only takes a week of bad weather to drop a months temp average 3°c below. Yet 150 years to raise average temps 1°c... ...yes I realise that's scewed logic 😉, however, it is easy to drop temperatures very quickly. It would be interesting to compare record warm months to record cold and see how the anomalies compare?
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Post by acidohm on Mar 7, 2018 18:36:52 GMT
youtu.be/J5aseBw4BmMImagine if such intolerance to an idea existed in our culture!! Hang on a minute....🤔
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 7, 2018 22:16:23 GMT
youtu.be/J5aseBw4BmMImagine if such intolerance to an idea existed in our culture!! Hang on a minute....🤔 The Climate Fatwa has been pronounced. We are all to proceed to our nearest mental health facility.
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Post by douglavers on Mar 8, 2018 5:35:21 GMT
When I was at university [several, actually], the student body generally might not agree with an idea, but it could be debated.
I do not think many Western institutions now differ greatly in philosophy from that expressed by the Egyptian program shown above.
"Our politically correct view is the only one which can be expressed".
So dies the idea of freedom of speech.
Those who disagree with the concept of CAGW can watch the world chill [possibly] from their bed in a mental institution.
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 8, 2018 7:46:18 GMT
When I was at university [several, actually], the student body generally might not agree with an idea, but it could be debated. I do not think many Western institutions now differ greatly in philosophy from that expressed by the Egyptian program shown above. "Our politically correct view is the only one which can be expressed". So dies the idea of freedom of speech. Those who disagree with the concept of CAGW can watch the world chill [possibly] from their bed in a mental institution. That's a cold and crazy idea Doug ... but unfortunately true it seems. And yet, I see hope in the current crop of high schoolers (the very last of the millennials or the start of the next generation) just heading for the exits. They seem more practical and more willing to think for themselves and not be defined by the mantra of the current college crowd. But this is the Mid-West, not Yale. The heart of Little Dixie ... not Boston. It's inadvisable to tell a Missouri rebel that he/she cannot say what they want.
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Post by Ratty on Mar 8, 2018 12:23:01 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 8, 2018 13:18:56 GMT
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