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Post by fredzl4dh on Mar 13, 2016 9:31:18 GMT
Alaska is going into an ice age and those incosiderate people are praying for global warming lol. "Will Alaska’s frigid spell last long? The researchers don't know. The report notes, however, that Alaska endured three decades of relative cold starting in the mid-1940s. Many Alaskans pray the current cold stretch abates sooner." www.adn.com/article/20121223/forget-global-warming-alaska-headed-ice-age |
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Post by graywolf on Mar 13, 2016 11:49:51 GMT
Ha! 2nd year of importing snow for Fairbanks sled race and open water in front of the web Cams in Barrow over Feb....
The 'issues; in the Pacific did chill the Pacific coastal Alaskan towns but the North slope ( influenced by sea ice loss over summer) saw the depth of melted permafrost continue to increase throughout the 5 year 'hiatus' in temps?
I think this year will also see high end temps throughout summer ( PDO keeping warm waters along the Pacific coasts) so keep on watching this space!
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Post by douglavers on Mar 13, 2016 19:11:27 GMT
adn article dated 2012.
What happened since then?
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Post by icefisher on Mar 22, 2016 15:49:05 GMT
Ha! 2nd year of importing snow for Fairbanks sled race and open water in front of the web Cams in Barrow over Feb.... The 'issues; in the Pacific did chill the Pacific coastal Alaskan towns but the North slope ( influenced by sea ice loss over summer) saw the depth of melted permafrost continue to increase throughout the 5 year 'hiatus' in temps? I think this year will also see high end temps throughout summer ( PDO keeping warm waters along the Pacific coasts) so keep on watching this space! all seems plausible considering that when it gets cold you get less precipitation. We still have seasons so less winter precipitation is going to at least start out giving us early seasonal melt. If as it got warmer and then continued to get warmer for two decades; we see it continue to get colder for two decades what little precipitation that falls might not seasonal melt and/or simply melt later in the warm season. We have had a long pause in global warming, a single spike in temperatures does not mean the pause has been broken, though we have a lot of scientists during their best to erase it just as we had in decades past to diminish or erase the 1940's peak in temperature, the MWP, and the LIA. All I have heard for the past couple of years is how great warming has been for agriculture. I think cold is what we need to worry about. As far as the PDO keeping stuff warm, perhaps we should look and see what is happening in the NE Pacific. I am not so sure we should expect much warming support from the PDO. The little warm strip along the coast is rapidly getting smaller. Here it is for 4 months ago, blob and all.
 Here it is today: And for a point of reference here it is in March 2008. And here it is with its lowest value in September 2012 IMO, there is no reason to watch the PDO index monthly values. Spikes in the monthly values lasting through an ENSO cycle of 18 months or so are extremely common. Just in the last 30 years we have seen PDO slides of 3.5 degrees in just a few months. February's +1.75 value could be -1.75 by the end of summer. Watching those variations is a complete bastardization of what the PDO means which is a multi-decadal pattern. Of course my perspective of it is impacts on fish productivity. ENSO has year class impacts on fish productivity but it doesn't matter to fisheries that much because missing year classes only mean changes in the size of catch and much less affects on total catch. But the PDO when it was discovered noted huge differences in overall productivity of certain stocks over multiple year classes greatly impacting total catches. And when speaking of climate we are supposed to look beyond these one to three year blips in the temperatures and look at long term trends. Its quite possible that the pause is merely a period of data bridging the end of one cycle and the beginning of another. We won't know the answer to that for probably another decade. |
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Post by samijafri on Apr 5, 2017 6:48:20 GMT
Global warming is not all about melting of glaciers and all that, it is also the reason for climate change just like in Alaska. abrupt change in temperature and broken previous records are the facts behind frequent climate change, so that we cant neglect the factor of global warming.
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Post by Ratty on Apr 5, 2017 12:01:22 GMT
Global warming is not all about melting of glaciers and all that, it is also the reason for climate change just like in Alaska. abrupt change in temperature and broken previous records are the facts behind frequent climate change, so that we cant neglect the factor of global warming. Can you elaborate, Samijafri? |
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 5, 2017 16:22:42 GMT
adn article dated 2012. What happened since then? BREXIT |
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 5, 2017 16:23:56 GMT
Global warming is not all about melting of glaciers and all that, it is also the reason for climate change just like in Alaska. abrupt change in temperature and broken previous records are the facts behind frequent climate change, so that we cant neglect the factor of global warming. Has the change to date been abrupt? |
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Post by fred on Apr 5, 2017 20:43:32 GMT
adn article dated 2012. What happened since then? BREXIT Brexit is certainly warming thing up over here in the UK!!!!!!! |
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Post by nautonnier on Apr 5, 2017 21:24:15 GMT
Brexit is certainly warming thing up over here in the UK!!!!!!! Remoaning seems to be something that is very SE UK centric. There are reports of comedians in clubs making anti-Brexit jokes outside the Greater London area not only having their jokes fall flat but the audiences even walk out on them It is almost like the Coastal Democrat states being anti-Trump while the 'flyover states' and the 'rust belt' support what he is doing. Perhaps we are witnessing the deposing of the townies  |
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