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Post by blustnmtn on Aug 15, 2018 20:37:17 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 15, 2018 23:18:15 GMT
I do not understand the logic of letting retired staff keep their security clearance. They no longer have any "need to know" state secrets. That is especially the case if they start begging for money from TV companies to work as talking heads. The minute you retire your security clearance should lapse and you should be escorted from the building with your searched cardboard box.
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Post by blustnmtn on Aug 15, 2018 23:37:13 GMT
I do not understand the logic of letting retired staff keep their security clearance. They no longer have any "need to know" state secrets. That is especially the case if they start begging for money from TV companies to work as talking heads. The minute you retire your security clearance should lapse and you should be escorted from the building with your searched cardboard box. Agreed. It’s an inperpatuitive perk created by and for the Washington elite. Ending it should be a component of swamp draining.
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Post by icefisher on Aug 16, 2018 21:23:00 GMT
I do not understand the logic of letting retired staff keep their security clearance. They no longer have any "need to know" state secrets. That is especially the case if they start begging for money from TV companies to work as talking heads. The minute you retire your security clearance should lapse and you should be escorted from the building with your searched cardboard box. I think the idea of having opportunities to speak with your predecessors at key positions is a credible reason to allow retention of clearances. Having a clearance does not give you access to classified information, it only permits access when through another process its deemed you have a need for access to classified information. OTOH, when I was in the service it was a policy for members of the armed services to not engage in public political activities identified as a serviceman. Its similar to rules for CPA's to maintain both independence and the appearance of independence. As a CPA if you violate that rule you can lose your license to practice. As a member of the armed services you could be subjected to fine, demotion, or even discharge for violating the policy. Brennan has shed all appearances of independence simply by his own press statements, without even considering what some of the stuff he has been accused of doing on the job. He has essentially destroyed every shred of his credibility as a neutral public servant. Anything he touches is going to be tainted in politics. His usefulness, if there was any, has been destroyed. . . .by himself. Stripping him of his security clearance does nothing but recognize that fact and allows him to be the man he wants to be without tainting the actions of our intelligence agencies more than he already has through his blatant politicization of everything he is currently touching.
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Post by blustnmtn on Aug 17, 2018 1:32:57 GMT
I do not understand the logic of letting retired staff keep their security clearance. They no longer have any "need to know" state secrets. That is especially the case if they start begging for money from TV companies to work as talking heads. The minute you retire your security clearance should lapse and you should be escorted from the building with your searched cardboard box. I think the idea of having opportunities to speak with your predecessors at key positions is a credible reason to allow retention of clearances. Having a clearance does not give you access to classified information, it only permits access when through another process its deemed you have a need for access to classified information. OTOH, when I was in the service it was a policy for members of the armed services to not engage in public political activities identified as a serviceman. Its similar to rules for CPA's to maintain both independence and the appearance of independence. As a CPA if you violate that rule you can lose your license to practice. As a member of the armed services you could be subjected to fine, demotion, or even discharge for violating the policy. Brennan has shed all appearances of independence simply by his own press statements, without even considering what some of the stuff he has been accused of doing on the job. He has essentially destroyed every shred of his credibility as a neutral public servant. Anything he touches is going to be tainted in politics. His usefulness, if there was any, has been destroyed. . . .by himself. Stripping him of his security clearance does nothing but recognize that fact and allows him to be the man he wants to be without tainting the actions of our intelligence agencies more than he already has through his blatant politicization of everything he is currently touching. I think most of us here grew up in an age when a fellow with his background never would have been head of CIA.
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 17, 2018 16:56:20 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Aug 19, 2018 3:28:23 GMT
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Post by blustnmtn on Aug 20, 2018 15:25:31 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Aug 21, 2018 8:03:54 GMT
The last time I read something that long was when I was studying for my last colonoscopy.
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 21, 2018 10:19:07 GMT
The last time I read something that long was when I was studying for my last colonoscopy. Ahh. Then you ARE familiar with Islam.
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Post by Ratty on Aug 21, 2018 11:54:28 GMT
The last time I read something that long was when I was studying for my last colonoscopy. Ahh. Then you ARE familiar with Islam. Yep. Starting to feel like Wallaby Ted's brother Roo. Sigh. Send me a PM if you can't figure it out.
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 5, 2018 1:58:21 GMT
Ahh. Then you ARE familiar with Islam. Yep. Starting to feel like Wallaby Ted's brother Roo. Sigh. Send me a PM if you can't figure it out. Will PMS do?
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 5, 2018 2:44:40 GMT
MARK TWAIN - I started reading Mark Twain (Samuel L Clemens) when I was a young lad and continue today. George Bernard Shaw called him the American Voltaire. Occupying a midpoint between our revolution and today, his writings arguably capture the history and spirit of Americanism in his own personalized wit and prose better than any other American author. If I wanted America to succeed, I would absolutely require the teaching of our founding documents, along with the writings of their authors, Jefferson and Madison, together with a history of their Anglo-Celtic origins ... tied together by the writings of Mr Clemons. Occasionally one runs across something one has missed. In this case, two videos (3 hrs) produced by Ken Burns on the life of Mark Twain. vimeo.com/216509301 (Mark Twain Part 1) vimeo.com/216510204 (Mark Twain Part 2)
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 20, 2018 19:40:21 GMT
This perhaps requires wide circulation and file archivals. It would be wrong for the current archived copy to be the only one. Late addition: Read the comments to the file capture post in the link
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Post by Ratty on Sept 21, 2018 1:00:34 GMT
A case of be careful what you wish for lest it rebounds.
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