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Post by walnut on Feb 6, 2019 23:56:55 GMT
Oh yeah, I know about your spiders. Those mouse spiders look really robust and lethal. I'm guessing that they have a very nasty bite. I think that the data on their venom is not real complete. I wouldn't want to be a data point myself. I got to know some wildlife on my hitchhiking visit there in 1985. It was a buxomy blonde nurse who had a cabin on Lake Macquarie. She had a roommate too. They took me in for some time and I got to study their behaviors. So ...... you're that guy. I remember the newspaper reports ...... Hey, you got it wrong, I believe I was harrassed.
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Post by Ratty on Feb 7, 2019 1:05:02 GMT
These venomous cottonmouth snakes were on a bluff near my quarry. My workers had to spend time there. The chances of someone getting bit were really high, they were thick. So they killed a couple of nests worth. They were still very numerous after this. I would never walk there around dusk. So, I didn't like massacring the snakes but they had to go. I suppose that in Australia my workers would have had to continue to work around them. That doesn't make sense. BTW neither of these hillbilly's are me haha Our quarry would likely be shut down so as not to disturb the wildlife.
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 7, 2019 2:30:16 GMT
These venomous cottonmouth snakes were on a bluff near my quarry. My workers had to spend time there. The chances of someone getting bit were really high, they were thick. So they killed a couple of nests worth. They were still very numerous after this. I would never walk there around dusk. So, I didn't like massacring the snakes but they had to go. I suppose that in Australia my workers would have had to continue to work around them. That doesn't make sense. BTW neither of these hillbilly's are me haha Our quarry would likely be shut down so as not to disturb he wildlife. Why would a politician protect a snake? Professional courtesy??
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Post by Ratty on Feb 7, 2019 3:17:28 GMT
Our quarry would likely be shut down so as not to disturb he wildlife. Why would a politician protect a snake? Professional courtesy?? We don't discriminate: We treat sharks the same way.
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Post by Ratty on Feb 9, 2019 13:18:12 GMT
Emissions cited in NSW coal mine refusal
A proposed coal mine's future greenhouse gas emissions have been used as grounds to reject it by a NSW court. Tom Rabe Australian Associated PressFebruary 8, 20195:50pm
A landmark court decision to reject a proposed NSW coal mine on the basis of its expected greenhouse gas emissions could have far-reaching implications for future fossil fuel projects in Australia, environmentalists say.
The chief judge of the NSW Land and Environment Court on Friday dismissed Gloucester Resources Ltd's appeal of the Department of Planning and Environment's 2017 decision to not approve the mine in the NSW Hunter.
Justice Brian Preston said the Rocky Hill project would increase global greenhouse gas emissions "at a time when what is now urgently needed ... is a rapid and deep decrease in GHG emission".
"In short, an open cut coal mine in this part of the Gloucester Valley would be in the wrong place at the wrong time," he said in his judgment.
"All of the direct and indirect GHG emissions of the Rocky Hill Coal Project will impact on the environment."
People in the packed courtroom quietly celebrated, hugging and shaking hands with each other as Justice Preston delivered his judgment, with one opponent to the mine breaking down in tears.
GRL had argued the increase in gas emissions associated with the project would not necessarily cause the carbon budget to be exceeded.
However, Justice Preston said the reasons they used to justify that claim were "speculative and hypothetical".
"A consent authority cannot rationally approve a development that is likely to have some identified environmental impact on the theoretical possibility that the environmental impact will be mitigated or offset by some unspecified and uncertain action at some unspecified and uncertain time in the future," he said.
The company also suggested greenhouse gas emissions would occur regardless of whether the Rocky Hill project went ahead, because if coal demand was not met by Australian mines "investment will flow to other large coal producers and mines".
Justice Preston said that argument was "flawed" because there was no certainty the market substitution would be in the form of coal.
"Countries around the world are increasingly taking action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in their countries, not only to meet their nationally determined contributions but also to reduce air pollution," he said.
Justice Preston also pointed to the visual impacts the mine would have on the local community, the noise and dust it would create.
He said these issues outweighed the economic and other public benefits of the coal mine.
Gloucester Resources said it was disappointed with Friday's ruling given its application "had met all non-discretionary criteria".
"Gloucester Resources will assess the implications of today's decision and consider its next steps," it said in a statement.
The ruling was lauded by Climate Council chief executive Amanda McKenzie.
"The NSW Land and Environment court has effectively ruled that coal - just like tobacco and asbestos - is bad for us," Ms McKenzie said in a statement.
"I'm thrilled to see the law catching up with the science."
The chief executive of community legal centre Environmental Defenders Office, David Morris, said the judgment would be "profoundly influential".
"The judgment is, I think, the first big piece of climate change litigation that this country has seen," he told reporters.
"Any decision-maker on fossil fuel projects would bear (Justice Preston's) reasoning closely in mind in determining whether or not a new fossil fuel project should be approved in this country."
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Post by walnut on Feb 9, 2019 16:03:59 GMT
Australia will dig that coal, when they eventually have to lol They got the government that they wanted.
Do you know what is the quality of that coal? Here in the states, we have quite a bit of dirty coal, here in Oklahoma, and also a lot of clean burning coal, in Wyoming and other places.
"People in the packed courtroom quietly celebrated, hugging and shaking hands with each other as Justice Preston delivered his judgment, with one opponent to the mine breaking down in tears."
"The ruling was lauded by Climate Council chief executive Amanda McKenzie."
-- *DO NOT ELECT FEMALE POLITICIANS* one of the root causes of our decline
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Post by nautonnier on Feb 9, 2019 16:25:54 GMT
Makes me want to see a drop into a 'Dryas' - next month would do.
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Post by walnut on Feb 9, 2019 16:31:08 GMT
I know, I can't help but feel that way, too.
I wonder if the furniture that they will be burning for heat will be environmentally friendly.
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 9, 2019 19:33:45 GMT
I know, I can't help but feel that way, too. I wonder if the furniture that they will be burning for heat will be environmentally friendly. Could open up a ticket booth for seats on the new Hale-bopp comet. Eco friendly guarantee. "Don't vacillate, terminate."
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Post by Ratty on Feb 10, 2019 1:11:03 GMT
Australia will dig that coal, when they eventually have to lol They got the government that they wanted. Do you know what is the quality of that coal? Here in the states, we have quite a bit of dirty coal, here in Oklahoma, and also a lot of clean burning coal, in Wyoming and other places. "People in the packed courtroom quietly celebrated, hugging and shaking hands with each other as Justice Preston delivered his judgment, with one opponent to the mine breaking down in tears." "The ruling was lauded by Climate Council chief executive Amanda McKenzie." -- * DO NOT ELECT FEMALE POLITICIANS* one of the root causes of our decline Walnut, we have good quality, high calorific value coal in many parts of Australia but predominately in Queensland and New South Wales. The Climate Council is a private non-elected body and employs such climate luminaries as Tim Flannery, Will Steffen and Joƫlle Gergis. We have sufficient bleeding heart politicians of bothall sexes. Your DO NOT ELECT FEMALE POLITICIANS one of the root causes of our decline statement may be enough to land you in court here in Oz.
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Post by walnut on Feb 10, 2019 1:21:22 GMT
That wouldn't surprise me at all. But I stand by it, I believe it.
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Post by Ratty on Feb 10, 2019 4:17:44 GMT
That wouldn't surprise me at all. But I stand by it, I believe it. I would agree with you but for the local authorities.
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 13, 2019 1:48:53 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Feb 13, 2019 2:26:05 GMT
Politicking. Assuming the underdog status.
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 13, 2019 3:21:48 GMT
Politicking. Assuming the underdog status.
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