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Post by missouriboy on Sept 8, 2019 4:25:34 GMT
Perhaps Donald would care to join the new Federal Republic of Central North America.
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 9, 2019 15:48:49 GMT
For those still interested in this circular firing squad of duplicitous politicians.... It is a delicious irony that the very remainer politicians who wish to remain under EU law are prevented by EU law from preventing BREXIT
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Post by Ratty on Sept 10, 2019 3:45:42 GMT
For those still interested in this circular firing squad of duplicitous politicians.... It is a delicious irony that the very remainer politicians who wish to remain under EU law are prevented by EU law from preventing BREXIT What my friend wrote when I posted that on another forum:
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 10, 2019 4:55:14 GMT
"Is it the fool or the fox we're seeing?"
Never underestimate Boris - he could be both.
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 10, 2019 5:42:15 GMT
Either way, Liberal brains will be exploding all over London. They're wired that way. Just like ours.
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Post by Ratty on Sept 10, 2019 6:08:05 GMT
Either way, Liberal brains will be exploding all over London. They're wired that way. Just like ours.
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 11, 2019 19:55:29 GMT
They do not have the power to do so. Note that there is no such thing as a British citizen, there are only British subjects, subjects of the Queen. The laws are only valid if the monarch signs them. Where the US pledge of allegiance is to the flag and the people it represents, in the United Kingdom the allegiance is to the monarch, who is supposedly politically neutral. All legal actions applying the law are announced as the monarch vs the accused. Therefore in this case the monarch would be on both sides of the action which is a nonsense. So, lacking the power to deliver an injunction, and assuming that the plaintiffs knew this ... is this an attempt to get a judge to "go rogue"? Or merely elements of the political class "breaking wind"? Or the first in a series of serious steps towards a new vote on Scottish independence? Apparently some Scottish judges think they do. www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-49661855But the Court of Session judges were unanimous in finding that Mr Johnson was motivated by the "improper purpose of stymieing Parliament", and he had effectively misled the Queen in advising her to suspend Parliament.
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 11, 2019 19:58:03 GMT
So, lacking the power to deliver an injunction, and assuming that the plaintiffs knew this ... is this an attempt to get a judge to "go rogue"? Or merely elements of the political class "breaking wind"? Or the first in a series of serious steps towards a new vote on Scottish independence? Apparently some Scottish judges think they do. www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-49661855But the Court of Session judges were unanimous in finding that Mr Johnson was motivated by the "improper purpose of stymieing Parliament", and he had effectively misled the Queen in advising her to suspend Parliament.So now the attribution of motive is what sets the law? That could be a dangerous precedent. Misleading the Queen is not something that is easy.
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 11, 2019 22:19:46 GMT
Apparently some Scottish judges think they do. www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-49661855But the Court of Session judges were unanimous in finding that Mr Johnson was motivated by the "improper purpose of stymieing Parliament", and he had effectively misled the Queen in advising her to suspend Parliament.So now the attribution of motive is what sets the law? That could be a dangerous precedent. Misleading the Queen is not something that is easy. Given her age, duties and family, you'd think she would have seen everything by now. Perhaps she will revoke their little wigs. I assume it is not polite to call the Queen "stupid".
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Post by Ratty on Sept 12, 2019 6:37:58 GMT
So now the attribution of motive is what sets the law? That could be a dangerous precedent. Misleading the Queen is not something that is easy. Given her age, duties and family, you'd think she would have seen everything by now. Perhaps she will revoke their little wigs. I assume it is not polite to call the Queen "stupid".
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 12, 2019 8:36:23 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 12, 2019 13:53:50 GMT
"EU officials regret getting into bed with Remainers
European Union officials and diplomats are “tearing their hair out” at the twists and turns of Labour’s “mad” Brexit policy and regret past tactical alliances with Remain campaigners. One Brussels source close to negotiations said the EU had “made mistakes” with Labour and was now horrified at the party’s convoluted position as political chaos in Westminster raises the prospect of Jeremy Corbyn taking the keys to Downing Street. “They want us to negotiate a ‘credible’ deal and then they will campaign against it in a referendum? That is mad. How can we negotiate with people like that?” an EU source said. “Their divisions and magical thinking are as bad as anything the Conservatives produced — perhaps worse.”"www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/eu-officials-regret-getting-into-bed-with-remainers-wxh2gkvjc
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Post by sigurdur on Sept 14, 2019 1:46:05 GMT
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Post by walnut on Sept 14, 2019 2:31:10 GMT
Looks like the bishop is safe for now. Given her age, duties and family, you'd think she would have seen everything by now. Perhaps she will revoke their little wigs. I assume it is not polite to call the Queen "stupid".
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 15, 2019 18:41:34 GMT
MPs do not realize how despised they have become " Instead, an anger has grown not only amongst Brexiteers, but in a sizable faction of people who voted Remain, both of whom perceive, quite rightly, that the directly expressed will of the people is being deliberately sabotaged by Parliament. The UK has in one form or another, functioned as a true representative democracy for more than a century. That means the country is organised into constituencies, each of which votes in an MP whose job is to represent the broad will of the people who voted for them. In effect, the power to make legislation and the important decisions is devolved into the hands of MPs. Parliament has the power.
A referendum, on the other hand, gives the power directly to the people, and MPs are required to act in accordance with the result. The people have the power. Again, no such thing has happened. Instead, a cross-party cabal of MPs, called by several names, but which has become known as the Uniparty, has set itself on crushing the result of the referendum."thepointman.wordpress.com/2019/09/13/parliament-vs-the-people/
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