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Post by sigurdur on May 26, 2019 15:50:52 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on May 28, 2019 14:30:36 GMT
It looks like there were internationally coordinated attempts to 'spy' on the Trump campaign well before admitted by the FBI 'counter intelligence' "Lawsuit Suggests Spying On Trump Campaign Started In Early 2016 Svetlana Lokhova’s complaint now raises the question of whether the efforts to spy on the Trump campaign date back even further, to late 2015 or early 2016."thefederalist.com/2019/05/28/lawsuit-suggests-spying-trump-campaign-started-early-2016/I would take these attempts as proven as who but the intelligence agencies would know Lokhova, Papadopolous or Carter Page? All appear to have been speculatively approached/set up well before 'Crossfire Hurricane' was initiated. The real question is _why_?? Remember Trump was only selected as official Republican candidate in mid-July 2016. Trump was still contending with Marco Rubio (small hands) and Low Energy Jeb Bush and the international intelligence agencies were already trying to set him up? There is something bigger here than just the Trump campaign - perhaps all campaigns were similarly set up but only Trump 'refused to play'? As Marcellus said ... " Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. "
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Post by walnut on May 28, 2019 15:40:28 GMT
I need workers, a good Mexican crew > native hillbilly crew. I think even at $125k per year, white guys won't show up on Monday morning. Sick of it. Not sure I want a wall
Better to rant here than kick my dog.
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Post by nautonnier on May 29, 2019 10:41:13 GMT
I said that popcorn futures could spike ... "....President Donald Trump’s orders to declassify secret documents pertaining to the FBI’s investigation into his campaign in 2016, came after weeks of battles between Attorney General William Barr and senior officials within the bureau, CIA and other agencies....
Despite the president’s order giving Barr authority over the declassification of the documents related to the bureau’s investigation into the Trump campaign and Russia, it won’t be met without a fight. And there’s a reason why. This isn’t just about Trump. It’s about nearly a decade of abuse inside the intelligence community and bureau regarding foreign-intelligence-collection authority. Why? Because it was carried out to monitor communications of Americans inside the United States and the procedures meant to protect Americans either swept up in those calls or targeted were not followed. The Fourth Amendment was under attack and abused for political purposes, say several retired intelligence sources.......
----“The FISC has already found that there’s been spying going on starting in 2012, not in 2016,” he said, adding that senior officials within the FBI and CIA “fear” that a full scale disclosure of the violations will then limit their expansive powers."saraacarter.com/ag-barr-battles-intel-community-and-fbi-illegal-surveillance-had-been-going-on-for-years/This is going to become a presidential power vs the intelligence (sic) three letter agencies. I think we could even see some agencies closed down and the entire 'seventh floor' sent back to the field offices or sacked. But note the date 2012 it is important - Obama's second term.
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Post by Ratty on May 30, 2019 12:03:02 GMT
I haven't watched these yet.
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Post by nautonnier on May 30, 2019 12:33:31 GMT
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Post by Ratty on May 30, 2019 12:44:39 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on May 30, 2019 20:39:40 GMT
John McCain was shot down and was tortured for five and a half years in the Hanoi Hilton. He died in 2018. The U.S. Navy hid his name under a tarp... on Memorial Day. There are other variants of the story of John McCain - songbird. For example do an internet search on: McCain Pavespike
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Post by sigurdur on May 31, 2019 3:34:38 GMT
John McCain was shot down and was tortured for five and a half years in the Hanoi Hilton. He died in 2018. The U.S. Navy hid his name under a tarp... on Memorial Day. As they should.
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Post by walnut on May 31, 2019 3:44:18 GMT
McCain made a successful career out of being an ex POW.
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Post by nautonnier on May 31, 2019 16:53:49 GMT
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Post by Ratty on May 31, 2019 21:56:10 GMT
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Post by blustnmtn on May 31, 2019 22:19:15 GMT
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Post by walnut on May 31, 2019 22:31:29 GMT
Not to trivialize your legitimate concerns, but I have learned to embrace the future. I find that I am sleeping easier now. All hail President Camacho!
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Post by nautonnier on May 31, 2019 22:43:22 GMT
Sorry Ratty - failed at the first sentence: "fact checking by Jake Tapper" is an oxymoron (fact checking is oxy, Tapper is the moron) Tapper has a vested interest in rubbishing Barr and talking up Mueller.
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