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Post by missouriboy on Aug 25, 2018 5:46:54 GMT
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Post by icefisher on Aug 25, 2018 6:39:14 GMT
Hmmmm, megadroughts historically recorded for the 15th to the 19th century. Wasn't that the little ice age? Vikings disappeared off Greenland in the 15th century almost certainly from advancing cold and the LIA ended in the 19th century. None for the past 125 years through the entire industrial age.
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Post by acidohm on Aug 25, 2018 12:47:20 GMT
That is incredible really. Feel sorry for the people who clearly suffered at the time tho.... Shared this elsewhere, it's been pointed out the consistency with GSM's.
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Post by Ratty on Aug 25, 2018 13:19:13 GMT
There is a little rain falling in some of the parched areas of New South Wales and Queensland. Dust settling, not drought breaking.
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 25, 2018 14:12:12 GMT
I remember this being posted before ... perhaps the best I've seen and available in PDF. Good maps and charts. Old World megadroughts and pluvials during the Common Era
advances.sciencemag.org/content/1/10/e1500561More generally, Fig. 3B reveals the existence of large-amplitude decadal to centennial hydroclimate variability over Europe and shows that, like North America, megadroughts in the Old World were not restricted to just the MCA period. In comparison, hydroclimate variability over the 20th century, although large, does not appear unprecedented in amplitude or trend. Isolating signals of recent GHG-induced hydroclimate change from this complex record of natural variability will be challenging.I love thinly disguised nuance. The N American companion to this can read here. science.sciencemag.org/content/306/5698/1015?ijkey=b3fd06b609bf659021259667481e57a6710c7fc4&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha
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Post by Ratty on Aug 25, 2018 23:33:13 GMT
I remember this being posted before ... perhaps the best I've seen and available in PDF. Good maps and charts. Old World megadroughts and pluvials during the Common Era
advances.sciencemag.org/content/1/10/e1500561More generally, Fig. 3B reveals the existence of large-amplitude decadal to centennial hydroclimate variability over Europe and shows that, like North America, megadroughts in the Old World were not restricted to just the MCA period. In comparison, hydroclimate variability over the 20th century, although large, does not appear unprecedented in amplitude or trend. Isolating signals of recent GHG-induced hydroclimate change from this complex record of natural variability will be challenging.I love thinly disguised nuance. The N American companion to this can read here. science.sciencemag.org/content/306/5698/1015?ijkey=b3fd06b609bf659021259667481e57a6710c7fc4&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha I will be using that elsewhere. Thanks, MB.
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Post by acidohm on Aug 26, 2018 0:11:29 GMT
I remember this being posted before ... perhaps the best I've seen and available in PDF. Good maps and charts. Old World megadroughts and pluvials during the Common Era
advances.sciencemag.org/content/1/10/e1500561More generally, Fig. 3B reveals the existence of large-amplitude decadal to centennial hydroclimate variability over Europe and shows that, like North America, megadroughts in the Old World were not restricted to just the MCA period. In comparison, hydroclimate variability over the 20th century, although large, does not appear unprecedented in amplitude or trend. Isolating signals of recent GHG-induced hydroclimate change from this complex record of natural variability will be challenging.I love thinly disguised nuance. The N American companion to this can read here. science.sciencemag.org/content/306/5698/1015?ijkey=b3fd06b609bf659021259667481e57a6710c7fc4&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha I will be using that elsewhere. Thanks, MB. Climates scientists seem to have a simple methodology to apply to any discrepancies.....
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 26, 2018 4:35:00 GMT
I will be using that elsewhere. Thanks, MB. Climates scientists seem to have a simple methodology to apply to any discrepancies.....
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 26, 2018 17:58:22 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Aug 27, 2018 8:43:23 GMT
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Post by acidohm on Aug 27, 2018 9:00:06 GMT
Astros forecast as of late July for this period, looks better and better.
He stated a day (8/8) a change and what this would consist of, correct on all accounts so far.
Kinda impressive considering the models are all over the place. Very little consistency, which is kinda concerning for UK. Our weather patterns are normally Atlantic driven, if the models can't forecast this easily they're into rarer abnormal patterns. These patterns can go very warm, ie from the south, or very cold, from east or north. Clearly we've been influenced by a southerly airmass all summer, hence the warmists propaganda overdrive. I think what Astro detected was the moment the systems stability tipped from these circumstances to whatever situation were in now. Of course he's saying late cold winter so we shall see.....
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Post by Ratty on Aug 27, 2018 11:36:15 GMT
Astros forecast as of late July for this period, looks better and better. He stated a day (8/8) a change and what this would consist of, correct on all accounts so far. Kinda impressive considering the models are all over the place. Very little consistency, which is kinda concerning for UK. Our weather patterns are normally Atlantic driven, if the models can't forecast this easily they're into rarer abnormal patterns. These patterns can go very warm, ie from the south, or very cold, from east or north. Clearly we've been influenced by a southerly airmass all summer, hence the warmists propaganda overdrive. I think what Astro detected was the moment the systems stability tipped from these circumstances to whatever situation were in now. Of course he's saying late cold winter so we shall see..... I'm betting against Astro's forecast because I like the warm .... but not TOO warm.
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Post by acidohm on Aug 27, 2018 11:40:26 GMT
Astros forecast as of late July for this period, looks better and better. He stated a day (8/8) a change and what this would consist of, correct on all accounts so far. Kinda impressive considering the models are all over the place. Very little consistency, which is kinda concerning for UK. Our weather patterns are normally Atlantic driven, if the models can't forecast this easily they're into rarer abnormal patterns. These patterns can go very warm, ie from the south, or very cold, from east or north. Clearly we've been influenced by a southerly airmass all summer, hence the warmists propaganda overdrive. I think what Astro detected was the moment the systems stability tipped from these circumstances to whatever situation were in now. Of course he's saying late cold winter so we shall see..... I'm betting against Astro's forecast because I like the warm .... but not TOO warm. Well you've just gotta find the right forecaster Ratty! 😁
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Post by Ratty on Aug 27, 2018 11:43:39 GMT
[ Snip ] Well you've just gotta find the right forecaster Ratty! 😁 What's his hourly rate?
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Post by acidohm on Aug 27, 2018 14:02:10 GMT
[ Snip ] Well you've just gotta find the right forecaster Ratty! 😁 What's his hourly rate? I'll do you a $50/hr to tell you want you want to hear???
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