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Post by ron on Mar 23, 2009 5:57:02 GMT
I didn't realize I was arguing policy, and you're preaching to the choir on the financial issues. I was asserting that the candidate the Republicans put forward as a Vice Presidential candidate was not qualified, and that President Obama is a bright guy, and has had some political success. Now I'll go watch or read all those tinyurls.
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Post by ron on Mar 23, 2009 6:15:45 GMT
OK, read all 4. Didn't see anything about Sarah Palin.
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Post by Ole Doc Sief on Mar 26, 2009 16:57:20 GMT
Everyone should get a chance to read Mark Levin's new book "Liberty and Tyranny" to see how far we have drifted from the original characteristics of a republic of sovereign states with limited federal powers. We really have reverted back to effectively an aristocracy (Levin calls them 'Statetists' I think) that believe that they know better than the rest of the country what's good for us and how to run the show, and who look down on all us 'real' people. I think that is why the left had such a problem with Palin as she is a 'real' person. She believes in Right and Wrong, Good and Evil and the power of the people to make decisions and how to keep government out of our way. I think what the left thought as 'she not bright' is more the effects of being over coached in another candidates position and not her own. If you ever meet her in person you meet a whole different person than the press shows. There, I've said my peace and I'll be quiet
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Post by icefisher on Mar 26, 2009 19:55:28 GMT
Everyone should get a chance to read Mark Levin's new book "Liberty and Tyranny" to see how far we have drifted from the original characteristics of a republic of sovereign states with limited federal powers. We really have reverted back to effectively an aristocracy (Levin calls them 'Statetists' I think) that believe that they know better than the rest of the country what's good for us and how to run the show, and who look down on all us 'real' people. I think that is why the left had such a problem with Pallin as she is a 'real' person. She believes in Right and Wrong, Good and Evil and the power of the people to make decisions and how to keep government out of our way. I think what the left thought as 'she not bright' is more the effects of being over coached in another candidates position and not her own. If you ever meet her in person you meet a whole different person than the press shows. There, I've said my peace and I'll be quiet Good post! Actually its the "C" students who make the best leaders and you probably mentioned most of the reasons why.
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Post by Ole Doc Sief on Jul 31, 2009 21:54:41 GMT
She was such a lightweight and a charicature of a person. How could anyone who was politically aware of the world not know what the "Bush Doctrine" was about? Maybe Palin could not answer because there are SO MANY Bush Doctrines(BDs)...no one can read minds, especially vacuous minds like KC! BD 1 Pre-emptive strikes, ok to attack your enemies and those that harbor and protect your enemies BEFORE they do irreparable harm. BD 2 Call a spade a spade and act accordingly; don't mess around with 'niceties'; there was and continues to be an Axis of Evil...just because you want Iran to not build a nuclear weapon, and you act 'real nice' does not mean that they will stop building such a weapon. BD 3 Be willing to act alone for a just cause; you know Saddam has WMDs (gee that was poison gas that killed that village, but where did it all go, can you say Bekka Valley), and you know he is willing to use it; Saddam has killed over 100,000 of his 'own' people, and he has flaunted the fact that he violated just about every UN Resolution put out there, eventually you just have to due the right thing! BD 4 The BEST Government is one run by the most people, a Democratic Republic; the government that is the MOST Dangerous is the one run by the LEAST people, it will do whatever the lunatic in charge wants it to do; be willing to be an agent for change to democratic choices, you have to look at the LONG TERM. BD 5 We are the United States of America, not a division of the UN, not subject to its whims and wishes, so be willing to act according to what would be best for the USA and its interests abroad as long as it does not compromise BDs 1-4. So, do you think KC would have understood that here question had no meaning, there is no one Bush Doctrine (some groups offer 7 BDs!).
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Post by Ole Doc Sief on Jul 31, 2009 22:06:01 GMT
Ron Great rebuttal, but to what were you elegantly responding. I also know that President Obama has a brain between his temples, and although I disagree with him on a whole lotta issues he's a very bright guy, leagues ahead of Governor Palin. Whether or not he can govern and if he is as politically savvy as some remains to be seen, but then again he is The President... hard to argue with success. I would think if your grey matter is working well you would have to believe that Obama's is NOT working. Throwing the US economy into a toilet in a heart beat. Taking over Banks, and Mortgage companies, then car companies, and now trying to trash 1/6th of the US economy known as Health Care all in the name of Socialized Medicine. Putting his foot in his mouth about supporting an illegally acting former president of Honduras, and then telling the legitimate protesters in Iran to acquiesce to its terrorist government. Obama has a twisted since of what is best for the USA!
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Post by stranger on Aug 1, 2009 1:41:25 GMT
There has been a vast change in the political climate in the United States. Presidential motorcades used to be quite modest by European standards. A couple of cops clearing the way in the van, a Secret Service contingent, the presidential limo, another SS car, and a carload or two of the local gendarmes bring up the drag. That's the way Reagan and the Bush's motorcades were. But take a look at yesterday's Presidential Parade and Procession. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zejrWrZlJYClick on the full screen icon, and then stop it at 1:38. That's a real assault weapon some goon is pointing at the crowd. A slip of the finger and there would have been a massacre. Something is radically wrong with this picture. Stranger
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Post by Ole Doc Sief on Aug 29, 2009 19:39:59 GMT
Looks like Obama might get his "Let's raise everyones power bill passed" aka Cap and trade. Going to raise the average utility bill $3000-$4000! Yep that should send us spiraling down into a deep pit. Hmmm, I don't think Palin was for ANY of Obama's failed policies...not bad for a 'mental lightweight'.
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Post by socold on Aug 29, 2009 20:41:55 GMT
In my opinion too much power is given to a single "leader" figure, the President, or in my country the Prime Minister.
More decisions should be put to public vote. For example in our country whether we join the Euro could involve a public vote, and in the US the cap and trade bill could be put to a public vote. Ie less "representive" democracy and more actual democracy.
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Post by mhaze on Aug 30, 2009 23:49:42 GMT
Mental Lightweight?
If one goes to Youtube and looks for postings of Palin as Governer, there she is running administrative meetings. And obviously an articulate, all business, efficient person.
Evidence in opposition to mental lightweight smears.
The extent of the smear tactics are in proportion to the extent of the percieved threat.
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Post by sigurdur on Aug 31, 2009 0:04:57 GMT
Mental Lightweight? If one goes to Youtube and looks for postings of Palin as Governer, there she is running administrative meetings. And obviously an articulate, all business, efficient person. Evidence in opposition to mental lightweight smears. The extent of the smear tactics are in proportion to the extent of the percieved threat. Who cares about Sarah Palin. Let her rest in piece as she deserves. She is part of the past, not the future.
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Post by stranger on Aug 31, 2009 20:27:20 GMT
Sigurdur, I rather suspect the Governor is very much a part of our political future. It must be remembered that "Sarah Palin" was hardly out of McCain's mouth when Ethan Winner of the Winner Group (running Obama's "Stopthelies" website, and around sixty other Obama websites) began the "slime Sarah Palin" campaign. Aided and abetted by Obama's media Kommisar, David Axlerod.
They were neither very careful, nor very subtle. They left tracks that even I could follow. Something that continued up to the Governors last day in office. Taking a respite to become a private citizen again lets some of the hoo-hah die back, and the Jesse Griffen slapdown has already given the little fish a warning that has left them scattered.
In the meantime, Obama's effort to put the ideas of every academic crackpot into effect are working out about like expected - so the Obamabots have to blame someone. Bush is a convenient target - and it's always best to stay out of the line of fire. Even blatant lies sometimes stick.
I suspect the Governor is taking seriously one of the hunters maxims of her husbands people. "Set your traps in silence."
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Post by sigurdur on Sept 1, 2009 1:57:54 GMT
Sigurdur, I rather suspect the Governor is very much a part of our political future. It must be remembered that "Sarah Palin" was hardly out of McCain's mouth when Ethan Winner of the Winner Group (running Obama's "Stopthelies" website, and around sixty other Obama websites) began the "slime Sarah Palin" campaign. Aided and abetted by Obama's media Kommisar, David Axlerod. They were neither very careful, nor very subtle. They left tracks that even I could follow. Something that continued up to the Governors last day in office. Taking a respite to become a private citizen again lets some of the hoo-hah die back, and the Jesse Griffen slapdown has already given the little fish a warning that has left them scattered. In the meantime, Obama's effort to put the ideas of every academic crackpot into effect are working out about like expected - so the Obamabots have to blame someone. Bush is a convenient target - and it's always best to stay out of the line of fire. Even blatant lies sometimes stick. I suspect the Governor is taking seriously one of the hunters maxims of her husbands people. "Set your traps in silence." Stranger Stranger: I enjoy your posts, but on this one I have 1st hand knowledge. My cousin, who is as conservative as I am, lived in Wasellia when she was Mayor. He said she is the looniest woman you ever want to meet. She apparantly was encouraged to run by some group who wanted the Ice Hockey thing, but didn't have the money for it. He got so fed up that he left and moved back to South Carolina to work. (He is retired military, 3 tours in Nam, spec forces) I realize that doesn't make him a conservative, but he grew up in North Dakota and we are pretty conservative over here.
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Post by stranger on Sept 1, 2009 16:28:29 GMT
How many hands is that again, Sigurdur? I will take your one second hand tp my second hand and spot you four long time current Wasilla residents. Two of whom have been there more than 50 years.
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Post by socold on Sept 1, 2009 21:12:40 GMT
I think she's wonderful
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