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Post by lyrch75 on Oct 4, 2009 13:38:11 GMT
In the 'early Autumn' thread sigurdur and others mentioned how far in the hole for growing days their crops were. Here in NE Ohio we still have beans that are not ready for harvest, folks chopping thier corn for silage instead of combining them , and some farmers who only got 2 hay cuttings and who see no chance in getting a third. How is the harvest going in other areas of the country/world?
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Post by curiousgeorge on Oct 4, 2009 14:19:13 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 5, 2009 2:20:07 GMT
There was a light frost about 4 days ago. The corn in this area, and as far south as Fargo didn't get to blacklayer.
The soys are going to be terrible. A lot of 3 bean pods showing, but only one bean in a pod. They at least did reach maturity, but are wet, and our warmth is rapidly fleeting.
Just finished combining wheat last Wednesday. IT never did dry down naturally, even tho we had warm weather. When wheat has a hard time maturing, you know the row crop is in deep do do.
We are a periferal corn state tho, but I do think the highest yield reported by USDA was in the Sept crop report. Think it will go down now.
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Post by lyrch75 on Oct 5, 2009 21:32:45 GMT
The futures markets on these crops are pushing upwards, but not nearly as much as I would have thought from the comment I have been hearing, similar to yours, about late/potentially poor harvests.
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Post by magellan on Oct 5, 2009 22:15:24 GMT
There was a light frost about 4 days ago. The corn in this area, and as far south as Fargo didn't get to blacklayer. The soys are going to be terrible. A lot of 3 bean pods showing, but only one bean in a pod. They at least did reach maturity, but are wet, and our warmth is rapidly fleeting. Just finished combining wheat last Wednesday. IT never did dry down naturally, even tho we had warm weather. When wheat has a hard time maturing, you know the row crop is in deep do do. We are a periferal corn state tho, but I do think the highest yield reported by USDA was in the Sept crop report. Think it will go down now. The national corn harvest looks like it may escape the bad effects from the coming cold snap. Here in Michigan past the thumb area the corn looked pretty sorry due to late Spring planting and cold July, but it could have been worse.
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 6, 2009 1:34:46 GMT
The futures markets on these crops are pushing upwards, but not nearly as much as I would have thought from the comment I have been hearing, similar to yours, about late/potentially poor harvests. Even with a poor harvest, which will be localized in nature, it is the demand side that is holding the futures in check. The world economy is just not buying as much corn, and that uncertainty is enough to keep futures low. The biggest problem with this crop as a whole will be storability. A lot of corn is going to be taken off wet in the corn belt because of the lower Growing Degree Days. That usually begets storage problems.
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 7, 2009 1:46:00 GMT
Heard on the farm news today that only 52% of Illinois corn is black layered. IF it does freeze this weekend, there is going to be a LOT of very poor corn.
And storing it is going to be a nightmare.
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Post by lyrch75 on Oct 7, 2009 13:16:43 GMT
Any idea of how bad the harvest would need to be to drop the supply curve close enough, or below, the depressed demand curve for folks outside of weather and farming circles to notice?
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Post by aj1983 on Oct 7, 2009 19:22:51 GMT
For France (and also the Netherlands) it will be a top wine year because of a warm and dry September.
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Post by richdo on Oct 7, 2009 22:21:49 GMT
For France (and also the Netherlands) it will be a top wine year because of a warm and dry September. aj - thanks for the heads-up, news reports are indeed for a very good vintage. Can't wait to try it ;D
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 23, 2009 1:54:09 GMT
The early harvest reports showed corn very wet. Now the problem is that the corn isn't harvested, so the winter wheat can't be seeded. The cold summer will affect the grain markets for some time.
There is now the beginnings of market reaction to this. And corn storage is deffinitely going to be a nightmare.
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Post by lyrch75 on Oct 23, 2009 20:44:30 GMT
The early harvest reports showed corn very wet. Now the problem is that the corn isn't harvested, so the winter wheat can't be seeded. The cold summer will affect the grain markets for some time. There is now the beginnings of market reaction to this. And corn storage is deffinitely going to be a nightmare. Spoke to a couple local guys and they are cringing at the $$ they will burn (literally) running their driers. Don't recall the moisture % they were throwing around, but by context it is QUITE high.
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Post by curiousgeorge on Oct 24, 2009 14:12:52 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 24, 2009 16:32:36 GMT
The problem with these crop failures is that it will be claimed that the poor harvest is a result of 'climate change', and that makes signing the Copenhagen Treaty and Cap and Trade even more urgent.
Politics is not about logic - its about winning the argument.
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Post by poitsplace on Oct 24, 2009 17:05:21 GMT
The problem with these crop failures is that it will be claimed that the poor harvest is a result of 'climate change', and that makes signing the Copenhagen Treaty and Cap and Trade even more urgent. Politics is not about logic - its about winning the argument. I thought it was about saying "nice doggy" until you could find a rock
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