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Post by icefisher on Oct 8, 2009 15:13:21 GMT
Antactica not only has more ice but the southern hemisphere summer resulted in the least ice melting during the entire satellite record. A stunning silence from NOAA on this while continually reporting stuff like Wilkins ice shelf and non-record ice levels in the arctic. And this goes on in the face of potentially the most severe government restrictions in history. Our agencies have become so politicized its time to kill them off by completely axing their budgets. wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/08/antarcticas-ice-story-has-been-put-on-ice/#more-11570 |
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 8, 2009 15:29:22 GMT
It is disappointing but expected to see this lack of integrity.
It appears that people have got so carried away with trying to prove their position that they have forgotten scientific method. But then science has been taken over by politicians and people desperate for research grants from politicians, so it is to be expected.
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Post by steve on Oct 8, 2009 15:54:41 GMT
It is disappointing but expected to see this lack of integrity. It appears that people have got so carried away with trying to prove their position that they have forgotten scientific method. But then science has been taken over by politicians and people desperate for research grants from politicians, so it is to be expected. What has a failure to make a press release to do with forgetting the scientific method. This paper is observational evidence of the linkages between climate variability and temperature (plus the effects of stratospheric ozone loss) that one side says will sometimes result in the overriding of the global warming signal and that the other side claims must "falsify AGW". Unfortunately: As it happens, one of the authors is from NCAR. Their press releases include: August 27, 2009 Scientists Uncover Solar Cycle, Stratosphere, and Ocean Connections July 16, 2009 Solar Cycle Linked to Global Climate, Drives Events Similar to El Niño, La Niña May 07, 2008 Climate Models Overheat Antarctica, New Study Finds February 07, 2008 Natural Ocean "Thermostat" May Protect Some Coral Reefs www.ucar.edu/news/releases/index.jspetc. |
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Post by icefisher on Oct 8, 2009 19:00:41 GMT
It is disappointing but expected to see this lack of integrity. It appears that people have got so carried away with trying to prove their position that they have forgotten scientific method. But then science has been taken over by politicians and people desperate for research grants from politicians, so it is to be expected. What has a failure to make a press release to do with forgetting the scientific method. Probably nothing Steve as long as the science profession doesn't mind being viewed by the public as nothing more than a bunch of carny shills. Myself the only reason to have a public entity to do science using taxpayer dollars is to have independent science done. If its not independent then it should all be privately funded. |
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Post by sfbmikey on Oct 8, 2009 19:04:13 GMT
question:
can someone explain to me how the freakishly warm temperatures over the southern hemisphere in july did not prevent this record?
was it just that "warmer" wasn't actually above freezing in this case, or what?
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Post by icefisher on Oct 8, 2009 19:33:31 GMT
question: can someone explain to me how the freakishly warm temperatures over the southern hemisphere in july did not prevent this record? was it just that "warmer" wasn't actually above freezing in this case, or what? Its because the record was set in the austral summer (Oct 2008 to Jan 2009) All the more weird considering all the doomsday stories from everywhere they can find any unusually high melt at all. |
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Post by stranger on Oct 11, 2009 1:57:56 GMT
Icefisher, compared to many of the unprincipaled cretins who call themselves "scientists" these days, Carnival shills are highly skilled and extremely honorable people.
Even the old time medicine man comes out with a sterling character compared to many of the "scientists" who depend on public funding. After all, consumption of 100 proof vodka equivalent, colored with caramel, and flavored with "secret herbs" will make you feel better.
And the doctors shill, the person who "buys" a case as an endorsement, is also a sterling character compared to Mann and Co.
Why, back in 1940 Doctor Hale's wife, a most attractive woman of 35, (the Doc was an MD, by the way) was stopped by a man who recognized her as she joined Doc's "tip."
"Lady, I know you are with it. Are all those claims for extending life really true?"
"I really don't know," was the prompt answer. "I have only known the Doctor since 1851."
And that was gospel truth compared to some of Albert Gore Jr's statements.
Stranger
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