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Post by icefisher on Jan 12, 2010 2:22:04 GMT
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Post by hairball on Jan 12, 2010 2:41:51 GMT
That's a huge increase if it's true, and it's only January 12th (actually, maybe not that huge since Scotland isn't included in this graph). Excess UK England and Wales winter deaths:  www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=574 |
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Post by curiousgeorge on Jan 12, 2010 3:22:48 GMT
Aren't Socialist Gov't's supposed to prevent this sort of thing? Sounds like they aren't doing a very good job. |
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Post by scpg02 on Jan 12, 2010 3:40:58 GMT
Sounds like they aren't doing a very good job. Depends on the intent. |
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Post by jtom on Jan 12, 2010 3:43:51 GMT
Well, I can see why Europeans are smitten with Obama. The first comment on this story was:
".....President Obama has odered all public places, libraries, schools etc to remain open and hot soup and cocoa to be made available for the elderly, homeless and those without jobs."
Where do they get these ideas? Obama doesn't have any authority over most libraries and schools, and instead of handing out hot soup and cocoa to the elderly, he wants to cut their Medicare.
It seems the UK has substantially raised their prices on most everything, including food and energy, but have increased pensions very little. Some now must choose between food and heat.
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Post by Purinoli on Jan 12, 2010 15:10:58 GMT
Well, I can see why Europeans are smitten with Obama. The first comment on this story was: ".....President Obama has odered all public places, libraries, schools etc to remain open and hot soup and cocoa to be made available for the elderly, homeless and those without jobs." Where do they get these ideas? Obama doesn't have any authority over most libraries and schools, and instead of handing out hot soup and cocoa to the elderly, he wants to cut their Medicare. It seems the UK has substantially raised their prices on most everything, including food and energy, but have increased pensions very little. Some now must choose between food and heat. If there is a plan, it is obviously the plan how to exterminate "useless" people by "nice" help of mother nature. If there is no plan, it could be even worse. Exterminate all who can't survive consequences of AGW. We all know that AGW produce a lot of cold winters, at least in last decade. If we compare civil casualties from WWII to severe winter, than we don't need any war. AGW is enough. |
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Post by trbixler on Jan 12, 2010 15:19:05 GMT
With AGW as an energy policy failure is certain. The question is will Gore, Obama, Brown, Phil Jones, Briffa, Mann, Lisa Jackson, Pelosi, Rudd.... be held accountable for the deaths caused by their adherence to a failed religion based on non science.
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Post by byz on Jan 12, 2010 16:26:53 GMT
Aren't Socialist Gov't's supposed to prevent this sort of thing? Sounds like they aren't doing a very good job. Depends where you start from the previous government 1979-1997 would have had a higher figure, at least my elderly relatives get cold winter payments, so they can turn on the heating ;D |
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Post by stranger on Jan 13, 2010 2:26:35 GMT
Most Socialist governments would like to eliminate their Seniors. We old buzzards are not well enough indoctrinated to shut up and die naturally - so the State can inherit their wealth.
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Post by Ratty on Jan 13, 2010 4:56:01 GMT
Most Socialist governments would like to eliminate their Seniors. We old buzzards are not well enough indoctrinated to shut up and die naturally - so the State can inherit their wealth. Stranger Where are you from Stranger? We're almost wall-to-wall socialists in Australia. |
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Post by graywolf on Jan 14, 2010 0:39:24 GMT
we're a curious lot if we just accept some Govt. stats and fight tooth and nail over others?
How do you reckon suicide is here in the U.K.? do you look at the govt. stats and shrug or do you think " what kind of a country wants to publicise a high suicide rate?"
If you want you're death to be accepted as 'suicide' then you'd better write to a solicitor with both your intent and methods otherwise you'll be another 'Accidental Death'.
If you die of hypothermia in the U.K. (as many old folk do EACH YEAR) then you'll have died of heart failure or kidney failure or whatever else that domino fall instigated by losing body temp leads you to. It doesn't do to be a country who kills it's old folk over winter now does it?
If you are interested about the death rate due to cold then dig deeper into the official stats for all the 'sudden deaths' that involve know causes of hypothermic death.
Thatcher may have forestalled the 'pension crises' but she didn't kill it off. Be it Swine flu /cold/starvation or loss of hope they'll weed you oldies out in the end mark my words.
Bah! Humbug.
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Post by stranger on Jan 14, 2010 2:46:27 GMT
Ratty, it's less where but when. At various times I have been over most of the Earth south of the 55th parallel and north of the Equator. Excepting Tibet, China, Mongolia, and the present North Korea. And some odd islands.
And yes, some of my Aussie friends are Socialists. And some have realized other peoples money is finite and come to their senses.
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Post by stranger on Jan 14, 2010 2:48:40 GMT
Greywolf, I am much less likely to die of disease than of overwork. Caused by taking care of the young.
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