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Post by Pooh on Dec 16, 2012 6:03:48 GMT
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Post by magellan on Dec 16, 2012 17:58:45 GMT
Thanks Pooh.
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 23, 2012 1:55:22 GMT
This is for thermostat: We will prob have to lead him once again........but I just feel so badly for him. He is like a ship drifting in the middle of the Southern Pacific with no wind. www.joelschwartz.com/pdfs/Chylek.pdf |
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Post by magellan on Dec 23, 2012 2:26:01 GMT
This is for thermostat: We will prob have to lead him once again........but I just feel so badly for him. He is like a ship drifting in the middle of the Southern Pacific with no wind. www.joelschwartz.com/pdfs/Chylek.pdfSigurdur, There is no discussing this with tstat; that Chylek Greenland article has been posted many times before along with multiple others. He doesn't acknowledge their existence let alone read them. He can't even bring himself to click on this thread; that may be his shoelace. |
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 23, 2012 2:30:23 GMT
This is for thermostat: We will prob have to lead him once again........but I just feel so badly for him. He is like a ship drifting in the middle of the Southern Pacific with no wind. www.joelschwartz.com/pdfs/Chylek.pdfSigurdur, There is no discussing this with tstat; that Chylek Greenland article has been posted many times before along with multiple others. He doesn't acknowledge their existence let alone read them. He can't even bring himself to click on this thread; that may be his shoelace. Magellan: You probably have a very valid point about Thermostat. However, being this forum has many visitors every day who do not post, but who do read, it is important to show that Thermostat's behavior is typical of many AGW folks. Where you can show them empirical data.......but they are so scared that they won't even read it. And we wonder why the science has become so corrupt? |
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Post by karlox on Dec 23, 2012 19:51:24 GMT
I am looking for some information on Pyrinees Glaciers during Medieval Warm Period.
It is funny you easily can Google and read things like "Pyrinees Glaciers have lost 80% of its mass since late Little Ice Age around 1800-1820" but I find it strange they never mention how Pyrinees Glaciers were during Medieval Warm Period... and I suspect they are ´forgetting´that perhaps during Medieval Warm Period Pyrinees Glaciers had already melted away and dissappeared, as it is happening nowadays again...
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 23, 2012 22:20:05 GMT
karlox:
Do a google scholar search.
I know that in the Alps......(Pyrinees?) glaciers are now retreating showing whole villages.
Also in Norway, where records are intact from centuries ago, land that was once farmed, taxes were paid etc, is now becoming available again.
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 23, 2012 22:21:00 GMT
If memory serves me, there was another MWP thread on this board that may have gotten lost in the transition when Kevin moved the board to a different server.
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Post by karlox on Dec 24, 2012 9:58:39 GMT
karlox: Do a google scholar search. I know that in the Alps......(Pyrinees?) glaciers are now retreating showing whole villages. Also in Norway, where records are intact from centuries ago, land that was once farmed, taxes were paid etc, is now becoming available again. Sigurdur, Pirineos (in spanish) is the mountain range that separates Spain from France (the Iberian peninsula in geo terms) Not so high as The Alps, highest summit being 3404 m amsl, and a handfull of summits from 3000-3400m. It´s very interesting place to see how european glaciers have retreated since area covered by these smaller glaciers used to be around 1780 Ha at the end of XIX century, now around 600 ha. Point is that most people think we are loosing our glaciers that were there for ages, as it has already happened in other mountains range within our territory, but I read somewher -don´t remember and trying to find it, that in fact latest Pyrinees Glaciers built up during "Little Ice Age" but were missing -or nearly missing as today- during Medieval Warm Period... so all they talk es about latest Global Warming, but can´t find references as how did Glaciers in Spain were during past warm periods... There is a lot information about Alps glaciers... which still look as glaciers... ours only barely keep just the top of the "circus" were snow accumulates and get compacted... rest is gone. |
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Post by karlox on Dec 24, 2012 10:00:34 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Dec 24, 2012 17:28:22 GMT
I wonder if Andorra had to close its duty free shops?  |
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Post by karlox on Dec 24, 2012 17:39:35 GMT
I wonder if Andorra had to close its duty free shops? Nor Andorra, neither Gibraltar... an small istmo with an airfield built on Spanish territory and roughly 29000 people living in 7square km plus the only European monkeys colony of about 2000, plus United Kingdom military... (definetly monkeys are more European than later... ;D) By the way: very nice place for shopping and skiing (Andorra) but the best is Sierra Nevada, furthest south sky ressort in western Europe, 35km from Mediterranean shore, and just outskirts of Granada, wonder of wonders... Very recommendable. I assume you know all that well... |
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Post by karlox on Dec 24, 2012 17:41:20 GMT
Forgot about this: Gibraltar, 29000 people, and probably similar number of registered Companies...
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Post by nautonnier on Dec 24, 2012 18:00:28 GMT
I wonder if Andorra had to close its duty free shops? Nor Andorra, neither Gibraltar... an small istmo with an airfield built on Spanish territory and roughly 29000 people living in 7square km plus the only European monkeys colony of about 2000, plus United Kingdom military... (definetly monkeys are more European than later... ;D) By the way: very nice place for shopping and skiing (Andorra) but the best is Sierra Nevada, furthest south sky ressort in western Europe, 35km from Mediterranean shore, and just outskirts of Granada, wonder of wonders... Very recommendable. I assume you know all that well... I have been fortunate to have been in all those places  Sierra Nevada is like Cyprus - go snow skiing in the morning then water skiing in the afternoon. |
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Post by karlox on Dec 24, 2012 18:17:17 GMT
Nor Andorra, neither Gibraltar... an small istmo with an airfield built on Spanish territory and roughly 29000 people living in 7square km plus the only European monkeys colony of about 2000, plus United Kingdom military... (definetly monkeys are more European than later... ;D) By the way: very nice place for shopping and skiing (Andorra) but the best is Sierra Nevada, furthest south sky ressort in western Europe, 35km from Mediterranean shore, and just outskirts of Granada, wonder of wonders... Very recommendable. I assume you know all that well... I have been fortunate to have been in all those places Sierra Nevada is like Cyprus - go snow skiing in the morning then water skiing in the afternoon. Welcome back anytime! by the way, I´ve left somethin for you in tin-hat thread of tilts... ;D |
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