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Post by magellan on Mar 6, 2012 1:41:00 GMT
Why WUWT is a good source of information and Tamino is a slimeball: wattsupwiththat.com/2012/03/05/taminos-trick/#more-58386For those not knowing who Jeff Condon is, he was a central figure that ferreted out (after months of obfuscation by Steig) the junk science of the Antarctic warming paper by Eric Steig (of RC affiliation) et al that made it to the cover of the "prestigious" Nature magazine. Yes, the same "prestigious" journal that promoted the hockey stick fraud over and over. Tamino has got to be one of the most disingenuous deceitful POS to have ever typed on a keyboard.
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Post by trbixler on Mar 6, 2012 3:49:48 GMT
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Post by glennkoks on Mar 6, 2012 4:10:47 GMT
trbixler, you can get it from the source at NSIDC.
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Post by trbixler on Mar 6, 2012 4:18:41 GMT
Sometimes I do but sometimes I want a number of different pieces of info. Of course the actual image is from NSIDC as it is not the thumbnail version.
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Post by lenardob on Mar 6, 2012 19:12:55 GMT
Looking at all the major sites listed @wuwt, it appears the sea ice is within the 1st deviation of average, and seems to be either the most sea ice for the past several years or almost the most (again according to the charts) looking at the danish sea temp's and the navy's sea ice/temps it appears that a slight shift in temps east of greenland has enhanced the ice formation in that region which MAY keep it higher,
what i am more interested in, is the next 30-60 day "peak" for ice final extent, will it exceed 2010 as the highest extent/latest highest extent? then how fast is the melt going to be this year.
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Post by trbixler on Mar 7, 2012 15:22:13 GMT
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Post by tobyglyn on Mar 7, 2012 22:32:09 GMT
"Longterm trend is down? You're kidding right?" Longterm is a relative term. In this case 1979 to present. Relative indeed and amusing too.
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Post by throttleup on Mar 8, 2012 2:13:20 GMT
I'm concerned about graywolf and numerouno as I haven't seen them for some time. Perhaps they're still on the deleted thread!
I wanted to get graywolf a t-shirt at the Fram store but I wasn't sure which spelling to get:
1) Dam the Fram
or
2) Damn the Fram
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Post by trbixler on Mar 8, 2012 13:23:58 GMT
Ram the Dam Fram
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Post by glennkoks on Mar 8, 2012 21:56:46 GMT
throttleup, I could be mistaken but I think numerouno said he was going on holiday? Or perhaps the record cold that hit europe last month made him rethink his views on AGW.
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Post by glennkoks on Mar 8, 2012 21:58:28 GMT
This from the NSIDC.org website: "As in January, sea ice extent in February was low on the Atlantic side of the Arctic, but unusually high on the Pacific side of the Arctic, remaining lower than average overall. At the end of the month, ice extent rose sharply, as winds changed and started spreading out the ice cover."
I was wondering if this is a common occurance when the PDO is negative and the AMO is positive? Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Post by throttleup on Mar 9, 2012 1:35:48 GMT
throttleup, I could be mistaken but I think numerouno said he was going on holiday? Or perhaps the record cold that hit europe last month made him rethink his views on AGW. Thanks Glenn; that does sound somewhat familiar now that you mention it. I hope he's enjoying himself and he finds his way back to this thread.
Graywolf might be in shock for all I know. He seems to be somewhat of a manic-depressive when it comes to ice extent. He's always excited... but it's always bad! Maybe he should move to the Pacific side where's there's a little more ice.
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Post by trbixler on Mar 18, 2012 13:39:01 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 18, 2012 13:58:10 GMT
From all appearances, ref the above graph, it would seem that Arctic Ice will still be around this summer. Of course, we might warm enough to loose all of it by 2013 as some climate scientists have predicted. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7139797.stm
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Post by sigurdur on Mar 18, 2012 14:09:00 GMT
ref to the BBC article above: "Former US Vice President Al Gore cited Professor Maslowski's analysis on Monday in his acceptance speech at the Nobel Peace Prize ceremony in Oslo."
I sure hope Al Gore doesn't say the USA is going to be hotter than normal this year. IF he says that, then I will prob never unhook the snow blower.
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