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Post by duwayne on Apr 17, 2016 15:27:10 GMT
 I just tried to insert the image, following instructions .................. Douglavers, can you provide the address of the image you are trying to post? I'll see if it works from my computer. |
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Post by douglavers on Apr 17, 2016 22:34:47 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Apr 18, 2016 12:04:26 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Apr 18, 2016 12:10:40 GMT
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Post by duwayne on Apr 18, 2016 15:48:52 GMT
![]() Douglavers, the address you gave is the link to an image on the internet. That's all you need to post the image. You don't need to use the snipping tool and save the image to the internet again. Just hit the "Insert Image" button on the "Reply" page (7th from the right) and paste in the internet address in the upper box. The problem you are having is that the "http://" is showing up twice at the beginning of the address. You can see that if you hit "edit" on your post above and look at the image address at the very top. |
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Post by acidohm on May 1, 2016 19:03:49 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on May 1, 2016 23:38:34 GMT
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Post by acidohm on May 2, 2016 18:07:49 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on May 2, 2016 22:01:28 GMT
Looks interesting ... if it's free. But unless some data can quantify that the NAD (not the N Atlantic Sub-tropical gyre. which apparently hasn't) has slowed down, then it seems we must identify some other mechanism whereby the heat (in whole or in part) is not making that northward journey, since the SST and deeper temps poleward of 40 N have been in relatively continuous decline for some time. The mechanics of how that might happen we have discussed before. When is that second cross-NAD array supposed to crank out some data? It was supposed to come on line last year? Argo data seems to be at a pause. None since December. |
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Post by nonentropic on May 2, 2016 23:45:03 GMT
Adjustments take time MB.
As an aside does anyone know what the average sea temperature of the NH oceans would fall by if the entire floating ice were melted around the arctic my quicky calc is <.1C at the summer minimum.
GW has used his Nuf Said comment to dispatch what is a quantified metric to a sort of joke and this 80X discussion, I'm interested in the facts here.
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Post by missouriboy on May 3, 2016 1:51:33 GMT
Adjustments take time MB. As an aside does anyone know what the average sea temperature of the NH oceans would fall by if the entire floating ice were melted around the arctic my quicky calc is <.1C at the summer minimum. GW has used his Nuf Said comment to dispatch what is a quantified metric to a sort of joke and this 80X discussion, I'm interested in the facts here. Gee. I hope not.  I thought that maybe all those USCD public employees were out frolicking in the El Nino rain showers. Or on safari along the tropical coasts of Thailand.  Anyway, they're a little slow on my monthly fix and I'm impatient.  In regards to floating ice ... your estimate seems as good as any. I guess you could get a REALLY big tub of water and drop in ONE ICE CUBE and measure the change (even 2 or 3). |
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Post by nonentropic on May 3, 2016 5:39:44 GMT
ratios about right and that is the point.
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Post by acidohm on May 3, 2016 5:58:00 GMT
Adjustments take time MB. As an aside does anyone know what the average sea temperature of the NH oceans would fall by if the entire floating ice were melted around the arctic my quicky calc is <.1C at the summer minimum. GW has used his Nuf Said comment to dispatch what is a quantified metric to a sort of joke and this 80X discussion, I'm interested in the facts here. What isn't accounted for on this is the disruption to ocean currents if all this freshwater was to be unloaded on the system? |
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Post by nonentropic on May 3, 2016 6:43:32 GMT
The freshwater discussion is critical but only from the point that surface temperatures are a stupid metric be they water or air.
how is a 2D metric ever going to represent a 3D product.
The cold melt water or the fresh water will sit on top of warm saline water fooling all that things are cooling. Don't get all enthusiastic that the water is reading cold when it should read warm, the key word is 'fool'.
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Post by acidohm on May 3, 2016 8:43:29 GMT
I agree, however it also the surface water that affects the weather above it, eg warm pacific waters have a noticeable effect (sometimes  ) The Pacific is well represented in temperature at depth and graphs are readily available which show the cold water pooling under the warm even now. ..your right, the surface temps do not give the reality of what is below the surface. We are dependant on helpful fellows like Missouriboy whose graphs from Argo data help reveal what lies beyond the ssta that we can see daily. From memory, these temperature (and salinity graphs) showed the ssta were representing the overall temperature within the N Atlantic area. Some graphs from some sources have recently been seen to over represent this, others like bob Tisdale offer a broader maybe more realistic look. Generally there us cooling, and meteorologists are accounting for this in their forecasts. No one really can explain it |
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I thought that maybe all those USCD public employees were out frolicking in the El Nino rain showers.
Anyway, they're a little slow on my monthly fix and I'm impatient. 
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