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Post by Ratty on Dec 20, 2017 22:48:22 GMT
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Post by acidohm on Jan 7, 2018 8:11:40 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 7, 2018 9:06:03 GMT
Appears this has all happened in the last month ... and specifically since the first of the year. Cold of Labrador current working its way south along North American shoreline? Deeper water branch known to follow this route in ARGO ... but at surface? Does 2-meter air mass "suck" ocean heat out this fast? Or ... is this SSTA data glitch. Always amazes me how fast these anomaly values jump around. Information? ... Or noise? Nullschool is great but clunky interface. earth.nullschool.net/#2018/01/06/0000Z/ocean/surface/currents/overlay=sea_surface_temp_anomaly/orthographic=-90.00,37.17,1094/loc=-70.589,35.689 |
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Post by acidohm on Jan 7, 2018 9:47:22 GMT
Appears this has all happened in the last month ... and specifically since the first of the year. Cold of Labrador current working its way south along North American shoreline? Deeper water branch known to follow this route in ARGO ... but at surface? Does 2-meter air mass "suck" ocean heat out this fast? Or ... is this SSTA data glitch. Always amazes me how fast these anomaly values jump around. Information? ... Or noise? Nullschool is great but clunky interface. earth.nullschool.net/#2018/01/06/0000Z/ocean/surface/currents/overlay=sea_surface_temp_anomaly/orthographic=-90.00,37.17,1094/loc=-70.589,35.689 All true, we shall see if this persists.... Air mass can suck the heat out re:hurricanes. Well aware this mechanism not currently active however! |
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Post by nautonnier on Jan 7, 2018 10:10:13 GMT
Appears this has all happened in the last month ... and specifically since the first of the year. Cold of Labrador current working its way south along North American shoreline? Deeper water branch known to follow this route in ARGO ... but at surface? Does 2-meter air mass "suck" ocean heat out this fast? Or ... is this SSTA data glitch. Always amazes me how fast these anomaly values jump around. Information? ... Or noise? Nullschool is great but clunky interface. earth.nullschool.net/#2018/01/06/0000Z/ocean/surface/currents/overlay=sea_surface_temp_anomaly/orthographic=-90.00,37.17,1094/loc=-70.589,35.689 Drag the globe in that pic around and have a look at the Indian Ocean - very cold too. |
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Post by flearider on Jan 7, 2018 22:16:58 GMT
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Post by Ratty on Jan 7, 2018 23:45:53 GMT
Looks better when you switch to SSTA.  |
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 8, 2018 2:03:08 GMT
Looks better when you switch to SSTA. If you're a masochist. |
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Post by Ratty on Jan 8, 2018 4:10:32 GMT
Looks better when you switch to SSTA. If you're a masochist. OK. Looks cooler ..... |
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Post by sigurdur on Feb 18, 2018 14:28:22 GMT
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Post by blustnmtn on Feb 18, 2018 21:18:06 GMT
I think the timescale for understanding this data will be on the order of centuries. Unfortunately, the predicate to all of this seems to be CAGW instead of let’s study AMOC and it’s temporal/spacial variability.
Assessments based on only the current 21 months of data are preliminary, Lozier says. If her OSNAP team claimed to have spotted a definite trend in that data, she says, “they’d take away my Ph.D.” |
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Post by Ratty on Feb 18, 2018 23:57:18 GMT
OSNAP and sverdrups ..... siiigh. Two more to try to remember. I just got my head around PhD.  I did notice another nod to climate models being questionable: ' “We’re showing the shortcomings of climate models,” says Susan Lozier, a physical oceanographer at Duke University in Durham, North Carolina, who leads the $35-million, seven-nation project known as the Overturning in the Subpolar North Atlantic Program (OSNAP). ' I wonder has Susan been called in and spoken to. Sig: Very interesting. Thanks. |
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 19, 2018 0:03:39 GMT
Any questions?
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Post by blustnmtn on Feb 19, 2018 0:56:20 GMT
Any questions?
That looks unequivocal Mo’boy, but you left out CO2 concentrations on the eastern flank of Greenland...surely that is driving the sun. |
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 19, 2018 2:46:28 GMT
That looks unequivocal Mo’boy, but you left out CO2 concentrations on the eastern flank of Greenland...surely that is driving the sun. I might have overlooked that little possibility (sigh). |
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