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Post by Ratty on Jul 23, 2017 22:59:40 GMT
50 years for me. I would only be 114 years old. You're a spring chicken, Sig. Been looking at RVs yet?
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 24, 2017 0:26:00 GMT
50 years for me. I would only be 114 years old. You're a spring chicken, Sig. Been looking at RVs yet? Wife is looking
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Post by Ratty on Jul 24, 2017 1:47:16 GMT
You're a spring chicken, Sig. Been looking at RVs yet? Wife is looking Decision made then!
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 26, 2017 23:28:54 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 27, 2017 11:35:53 GMT
So now any journey of more than 300 miles will take 2 days as the range of the electric car is around 300 miles and then you need several hours to recharge. I have seen in other fora that this move - also seen in California and France so it appears to be scripted, is intended to reduce public mobility. It is definitely in line with the Agenda 21 ideas of dense urban areas and factory farmed countryside - with as little self sufficiency as possible.
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 27, 2017 13:39:31 GMT
Yep.
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Post by birder on Jul 27, 2017 22:15:24 GMT
I've got into electric vehicles, just bought me a used mobility scooter, it's great to ride on, nice and quiet but I only get 5 miles on a full battery charge and a top speed of 4mph.
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Post by Ratty on Jul 27, 2017 23:52:00 GMT
I've got into electric vehicles, just bought me a used mobility scooter, it's great to ride on, nice and quiet but I only get 5 miles on a full battery charge and a top speed of 4mph. Luxury!
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 28, 2017 0:14:20 GMT
I've got into electric vehicles, just bought me a used mobility scooter, it's great to ride on, nice and quiet but I only get 5 miles on a full battery charge and a top speed of 4mph. Don't be in a hurry and don't plan to go far.
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 28, 2017 0:23:06 GMT
I've got into electric vehicles, just bought me a used mobility scooter, it's great to ride on, nice and quiet but I only get 5 miles on a full battery charge and a top speed of 4mph. Don't be in a hurry and don't plan to go far. That reminds me of a chapter in "3 men in a boat" on cheese "I called for the cheeses, and took them away in a cab. It was a ramshackle affair, dragged along by a knock-kneed, broken-winded somnambulist, which his owner, in a moment of enthusiasm, during conversation, referred to as a horse. I put the cheeses on the top, and we started off at a shamble that would have done credit to the swiftest steam-roller ever built, and all went merry as a funeral bell, until we turned the corner. There, the wind carried a whiff from the cheeses full on to our steed. It woke him up, and, with a snort of terror, he dashed off at three miles an hour. The wind still blew in his direction, and before we reached the end of the street he was laying himself out at the rate of nearly four miles an hour, leaving the cripples and stout old ladies simply nowhere."
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Post by Ratty on Jul 28, 2017 23:09:05 GMT
Don't be in a hurry and don't plan to go far. That reminds me of a chapter in "3 men in a boat" on cheese "I called for the cheeses, and took them away in a cab. It was a ramshackle affair, dragged along by a knock-kneed, broken-winded somnambulist, which his owner, in a moment of enthusiasm, during conversation, referred to as a horse. I put the cheeses on the top, and we started off at a shamble that would have done credit to the swiftest steam-roller ever built, and all went merry as a funeral bell, until we turned the corner. There, the wind carried a whiff from the cheeses full on to our steed. It woke him up, and, with a snort of terror, he dashed off at three miles an hour. The wind still blew in his direction, and before we reached the end of the street he was laying himself out at the rate of nearly four miles an hour, leaving the cripples and stout old ladies simply nowhere." Should be compulsory reading in schools as should be Spike Milligan's irreverent Puckoon (with suitable redactions).
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Post by nautonnier on Jul 29, 2017 0:45:49 GMT
That reminds me of a chapter in "3 men in a boat" on cheese "I called for the cheeses, and took them away in a cab. It was a ramshackle affair, dragged along by a knock-kneed, broken-winded somnambulist, which his owner, in a moment of enthusiasm, during conversation, referred to as a horse. I put the cheeses on the top, and we started off at a shamble that would have done credit to the swiftest steam-roller ever built, and all went merry as a funeral bell, until we turned the corner. There, the wind carried a whiff from the cheeses full on to our steed. It woke him up, and, with a snort of terror, he dashed off at three miles an hour. The wind still blew in his direction, and before we reached the end of the street he was laying himself out at the rate of nearly four miles an hour, leaving the cripples and stout old ladies simply nowhere." Should be compulsory reading in schools as should be Spike Milligan's irreverent Puckoon (with suitable redactions). One of my favorite extracts from Puckoon.... "The lad went on: ‘I should like to sing the late J. Collard Jackson’s lovely song “Eileen, My Eileen.”’ He raised the lid of the beer-saturated piano, struck a note and started singing a different one. The lad opened a raw red mouth, revealing great harp strings of saliva. At first no sound came, then, welling from the back of his body there came a quivering, tense, tinny sound, like a tram issuing from a tunnel. With the arrival of the first uncertain note, the lad’s eyes glazed over, as though a stricture of the bowels was imminent; the singer’s body went rigid, a series of stomach convulsions ensued, then the whole body quivered. It even frightened Dr Goldstein. . "Eileeeeeeeeeeeeeen! Yoooou arree my Queeeeennnn ..‘
The agonized notes seemed to swell up from the thorax and pass hurriedly inwards towards the back of the head, where they were apparently trapped and reduced by a three-inch cavity skull; rebounding, they escaped by struggling down one side of his clogged nose at strength three.
"My Queeeeeeeeeeeeeenn The finest I’ve ever seeeeeeeeeeeeeen . .‘
Puzzled spectators observed that his lower jaw, unlike yours or mine, remained static; it was the top of his head that moved. On high notes it was so acutely angled, most of the time was spent looking up the singer’s nose, a terrible sight to behold. He indulged in an orgy of meaningless gestures, even the word ‘it’ was sung, trembling with catarrhal ecstasy; time and again he raised his skinny arms to heaven, revealing a ragged armpit from which protruded tufts of brown hair. Veins stood out on his forehead, and sweat ran down his face as, purple with strain, he braced himself for the last great note; bending his knees, clenching his fists, he closed his eyes and threw back his head. In that tacit moment the observant Foggerty spoke:
‘Hey, Mister, you got a bogey up yer nose.’
The last great note burst and was lost in a sea of irreverent laughter. Red faced, tears drowning his eyes, he returned to the bar. The world of music was safer by far and J. Collard Jackson stopped turning in his grave.
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Post by douglavers on Jul 29, 2017 1:48:10 GMT
A chemical engineer I know had this thought on the UK's "total convert" to electric vehicles:
a] Average household electric power consumption; ? 20 kwhs per day b] Average household car useage and engine power; ? 1 hour per day, 100 kw. i.e. 100 kwhs per day [cf current household consumption 20 kwhs] c] Average time of plug-in to recharge; early evening
In other words, throwing transport power load onto the power grid will need a huge number of extra power stations, particularly as the power requirement will likely spike in early evening. This does not include household wiring improvement to handle the extra power and pretty well total electric fuel stations coverage. What happens if you have to park in a street?
Journeys of more than 300 kms are going to take an awfully long time due to recharge stops.
Speaking as someone who studied chemistry in the [very] dim and distant past, I doubt whether any battery can be built to take multiple high current recharges over a period of years. And guess what the new batteries will cost!!
Not to mention there is probably not enough lithium around for anything to happen on the scale proposed..
When some thought is put into this, I think the total banning of diesel and petrol vehicles will be delayed somewhat.
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Post by sigurdur on Jul 29, 2017 1:58:19 GMT
There is enough lithium, but there are not enough rare earth metals to make plentiful lithium battery production feasible.
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Post by Ratty on Jul 29, 2017 1:59:32 GMT
There is enough lithium, but there are not enough rare earth metals to make plentiful lithium battery production feasible. We have plenty in Queensland.
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