Who are the liars.

[fredzl4dh]

I wonder who the liars are in the climate debate the western science says it is the hottest year ever, at the same time Russia says they have had the worst winter on record and are expecting it to get worse. I know who i believe and it isn't our side as they are more into religion than science.

www.eutimes.net/2015/09/russia-warns-global-chaos-to-follow-worst-winter-in-history/

[missouriboy]

When Stefan Rahmstorf and Michael Mann are mentioned in the same breath as 'coolists' the world
has truely lost its balance!     

[acidohm]

I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

What climate change deniers, like Donald Trump, believe - www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articles/37936740

Is it just me or does this whole article seem a little staged??

Its a little like a toolbox chat to equip the believers with the answers to erroneous inquiry while painting an unfavourable slant on the opposition.

What kind of world is it where people with an intellectual opinion are described with the same word as a very small minority who hold very extreme and highly repulsive morals??

The cleverness of using the same argument that would otherwise be used against them time and time again while bludgeoning the point home ''the majority of scientists''

All of this too from an organisation that supposedly has some kind of impartiality.... (like....whatever...)

It's very obvious ANY data showing contrary evidence will be met by highly robust opposition with very well produced, let's call it what it is....propaganda.

The more things run, if contrary, to the std warm warm warm meme, the more calculated and systemic the responses will be I think. I am, to be honest, a little shocked at how capably this article aids the followers of AGW.

It also kinda shows their flaws, they are afraid of Trump, they are afraid of cooling, and the low solar output.

I hate conspiracies, I feel there's no point spending time on something when you'll never know the answer, but this is more a case I have an interest and it appears there is a conspiracy attached....

[nautonnier]

Nov 11, 2016 20:59:02 GMT acidohm said:

I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

What climate change deniers, like Donald Trump, believe - www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articles/37936740

Is it just me or does this whole article seem a little staged??

Its a little like a toolbox chat to equip the believers with the answers to erroneous inquiry while painting an unfavourable slant on the opposition.

What kind of world is it where people with an intellectual opinion are described with the same word as a very small minority who hold very extreme and highly repulsive morals??

The cleverness of using the same argument that would otherwise be used against them time and time again while bludgeoning the point home ''the majority of scientists''

All of this too from an organisation that supposedly has some kind of impartiality.... (like....whatever...)

It's very obvious ANY data showing contrary evidence will be met by highly robust opposition with very well produced, let's call it what it is....propaganda.

The more things run, if contrary, to the std warm warm warm meme, the more calculated and systemic the responses will be I think. I am, to be honest, a little shocked at how capably this article aids the followers of AGW.

It also kinda shows their flaws, they are afraid of Trump, they are afraid of cooling, and the low solar output.

I hate conspiracies, I feel there's no point spending time on something when you'll never know the answer, but this is more a case I have an interest and it appears there is a conspiracy attached....

Currently, for universities to reliably obtain any research funding regardless of subject, there must be a link to CO2, Carbon or catastrophic global warming. The University grants department send back research proposals that do not have such links as they know to get the funds they have to have the genuflection to the AGW memes. THis is the reason for the stupidity of some research papers with extremely tenuous AGW claims.

Now all Trump needs to do is direct NSF and others (possibly having to replace members of boards to do so) that research into 'AGW' will NOT be funded. Stop the EPA asking for such research and pull out of all the less direct funding via other agencies such as NASA and NOAA who will have their leaders replaced. Magically, when funding is not available and is explicitly removed from those departments espousing it. The reverse will become true. I suspect that it may take a year or so but real research may start to supplant the religious approach. EPA is already shell shocked to have a 'denierr' as their new director https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/11/11/friday-funny-liberals-are-in-such-disbeliefshock-on-myron-ebell-appointment-for-epa-transition-he-has-a-snopes-page/

[blustnmtn]

I didn't know where else to post this:

wattsupwiththat.com/2017/10/19/in-australia-faulty-bom-temperature-sensors-contribute-to-hottest-year-ever/

Ratty needs to deal with this nonsense!!!

[Ratty]

Oct 19, 2017 12:51:14 GMT blustnmtn said:

I didn't know where else to post this:

wattsupwiththat.com/2017/10/19/in-australia-faulty-bom-temperature-sensors-contribute-to-hottest-year-ever/

Ratty needs to deal with this nonsense!!!

They have taken my firearms; nothing I can do.

[blustnmtn]

Oct 19, 2017 13:03:34 GMT Ratty said:

Oct 19, 2017 12:51:14 GMT blustnmtn said:

I didn't know where else to post this:

wattsupwiththat.com/2017/10/19/in-australia-faulty-bom-temperature-sensors-contribute-to-hottest-year-ever/

Ratty needs to deal with this nonsense!!!

They have taken my firearms; nothing I can do.

Cut the power to the sensors!  They haven't taken your knives...yet.

[missouriboy]

Oct 19, 2017 13:03:34 GMT Ratty said:

Oct 19, 2017 12:51:14 GMT blustnmtn said:

I didn't know where else to post this:

wattsupwiththat.com/2017/10/19/in-australia-faulty-bom-temperature-sensors-contribute-to-hottest-year-ever/

Ratty needs to deal with this nonsense!!!

They have taken my firearms; nothing I can do.

Mercenaries?  Of course then you'd need a grant.     But ... silly me.  I forgot.  You already have one.  

[Ratty]

Oct 19, 2017 18:39:13 GMT missouriboy said:

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Mercenaries?  Of course then you'd need a grant.     But ... silly me.  I forgot.  You already have one.  

You leave my son out of this!