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Post by nautonnier on May 10, 2020 18:22:16 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on May 10, 2020 18:35:08 GMT
" Even with people staying in, carbon dioxide is breaking records
The coronavirus is doing little to slow down climate change
The amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is still rising, even though people are driving and flying less during the COVID-19 pandemic. CO2 reached an all-time daily high on May 3rd, hitting levels that haven’t been seen in the more than 60 years since records began.
The annual average is also expected to rise, according to an analysis published today by scientists at the national meteorological service for the UK and the Scripps Institution of Oceanography. They found that the overall amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is still climbing steadily, and that the dramatic changes from the pandemic barely slowed it down."www.theverge.com/2020/5/7/21251188/carbon-dioxide-breaking-records-climate-change-coronavirus
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Post by mondeoman on May 10, 2020 19:42:19 GMT
Does this become a cat amongst the pigeons moment, or will it just get brushed aside as an anomaly?
Is there any science that could support a possible 2 month delay between human CO2 emissions reducing in Asia and then Europe and then America and the detection event at Moana Loa?
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Post by nautonnier on May 10, 2020 21:00:47 GMT
Does this become a cat amongst the pigeons moment, or will it just get brushed aside as an anomaly? Is there any science that could support a possible 2 month delay between human CO2 emissions reducing in Asia and then Europe and then America and the detection event at Moana Loa? There are some trying to say it is residency time which is the reason for no drop - but that falls because of the zig zag pattern of the normal readings linked to summer/winter - and in any case the levels are still _rising_ so something is increasing the levels regardless of anthropogenic causes.
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Post by mondeoman on May 10, 2020 21:38:11 GMT
And we've had the warmest winter ever, so the whole thing doesn't make any sense.
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Post by missouriboy on May 10, 2020 21:45:41 GMT
Does this become a cat amongst the pigeons moment, or will it just get brushed aside as an anomaly? Is there any science that could support a possible 2 month delay between human CO2 emissions reducing in Asia and then Europe and then America and the detection event at Moana Loa? There are some trying to say it is residency time which is the reason for no drop - but that falls because of the zig zag pattern of the normal readings linked to summer/winter - and in any case the levels are still _rising_ so something is increasing the levels regardless of anthropogenic causes. If you scroll down to the charts on this page: www.climate.gov/maps-data its clear that the upward trend (assuming the data are accurate) was not visibly affected by the one solar cycle downturn in the 70s either. Since world ocean heating trends at least leveled off during that period, it doesn't seem to have affected the record.
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Post by Ratty on May 11, 2020 4:29:59 GMT
And we've had the warmest winter ever, so the whole thing doesn't make any sense. It does if carbon dioxide is not a driver of climate/temperature.
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Post by acidohm on May 11, 2020 8:26:18 GMT
And we've had the warmest winter ever, so the whole thing doesn't make any sense. It does if carbon dioxide is not a driver of climate/temperature. Thats a bit like saying because there is death and suffering there is no God, you must have faith!! Or you're a heathen and will drown in melted ice caps 😳
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Post by acidohm on May 11, 2020 8:32:41 GMT
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Post by Ratty on May 11, 2020 11:59:23 GMT
Just for fun, I've made a copy of the two graphs on NOAA's site:
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Post by acidohm on May 11, 2020 12:56:28 GMT
Yep, 0 effect from economic downturn as yet, but temps have plummeted march/april.
Following ENSO more closely then co2 atm.
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Post by nautonnier on May 11, 2020 18:32:14 GMT
Yep, 0 effect from economic downturn as yet, but temps have plummeted march/april. Following ENSO more closely then co2 atm. But the point is that it has got colder and CO2 has increased The opposite should have happened
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Post by acidohm on May 11, 2020 18:46:05 GMT
Yep, 0 effect from economic downturn as yet, but temps have plummeted march/april. Following ENSO more closely then co2 atm. But the point is that it has got colder and CO2 has increased The opposite should have happened Yes. The plot twist will be "after careful analysis the results are that co2 *did* fall" You know the score......
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Post by nautonnier on May 11, 2020 21:08:17 GMT
But the point is that it has got colder and CO2 has increased The opposite should have happened Yes. The plot twist will be "after careful analysis the results are that co2 *did* fall" You know the score...... Yes the adjusted results ......
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Post by acidohm on May 15, 2020 13:13:52 GMT
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