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Post by gridley on May 14, 2020 12:24:49 GMT
All this and the continuing attempt to get Flynn by the democrats pet judge are really a major mistake by Obama and his advisers. Trump is obviously close to a complete sense of humor failure. WHEN this all comes down there will now be no 'mercy' shown, maximum sentences will be required from all including the 'relative nobodies'. Comey and his FBI cabal with a 40 year sentences each and eye watering fines would rock back those involved and be a signal to the current 7th Floor. This could even end with Obama, Biden and Hillary in a pile of legal trouble too. Throw in a few private slander and libel suits to the news organizations and the next few months could be quite entertaining. And the strike back MUST happen or Justice and rule of law in the USA will have been thrown away Except all they have to do is delay things until the new president is seated, and they can pardon everyone. :-( |
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Post by nautonnier on May 14, 2020 12:58:35 GMT
All this and the continuing attempt to get Flynn by the democrats pet judge are really a major mistake by Obama and his advisers. Trump is obviously close to a complete sense of humor failure. WHEN this all comes down there will now be no 'mercy' shown, maximum sentences will be required from all including the 'relative nobodies'. Comey and his FBI cabal with a 40 year sentences each and eye watering fines would rock back those involved and be a signal to the current 7th Floor. This could even end with Obama, Biden and Hillary in a pile of legal trouble too. Throw in a few private slander and libel suits to the news organizations and the next few months could be quite entertaining. And the strike back MUST happen or Justice and rule of law in the USA will have been thrown away Except all they have to do is delay things until the new president is seated, and they can pardon everyone. :-( They could but that could be a major political mistake if the cases were obviously watertight and there was an attempt to overthrow the recently elected president. Pardoning the conspirators effectively says we don't care about the constitution or the rule of law this is politics and they are on 'our side' - not on the side of The Constitution of the United States. There is a huge 'silent' majority that want to see a level playing field and not one side getting off and the other side being continually harassed and imprisoned. Trump would have that majority on his side. Including a large proportion of the 'black vote' who can sympathize with Trump being harassed for being 'president while Trump' - they recognize that type of injustice. |
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Post by sigurdur on May 14, 2020 18:12:12 GMT
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Post by gridley on May 15, 2020 13:25:07 GMT
Except all they have to do is delay things until the new president is seated, and they can pardon everyone. :-( They could but that could be a major political mistake if the cases were obviously watertight and there was an attempt to overthrow the recently elected president. Pardoning the conspirators effectively says we don't care about the constitution or the rule of law this is politics and they are on 'our side' - not on the side of The Constitution of the United States. When did the Democratic Party start caring about the Constitution? Or, for that matter the rule of law except for the laws they made? I wish I shared your optimism. There are certainly plenty of people who want things to be "fair" even if they don't always like the results, but IMO they're no longer a majority. A lot of them also get their news, and thus their preconceptions of "fairness" from the MSM. Take a look at Covid-19. The message is that it is selfish to go out during a pandemic, even if that's what it takes to keep your job. We're releasing felons and locking up people who've violated unconstitutional stay-at-home orders. We're told that it isn't "fair" to expose felons to the risks of prison, so we need to let them go. And it isn't "fair" to let people go out, so we arrest them. Watch the movie "Thank you for Smoking" (good movie, BTW). How many times does the primary character actually *lie*? How many times does he convince people of something that isn't true? Or, rather, how many times does he steer people into convincing *themselves* of something that isn't true? |
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Post by nautonnier on May 15, 2020 13:38:08 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on May 15, 2020 13:51:34 GMT
They could but that could be a major political mistake if the cases were obviously watertight and there was an attempt to overthrow the recently elected president. Pardoning the conspirators effectively says we don't care about the constitution or the rule of law this is politics and they are on 'our side' - not on the side of The Constitution of the United States. When did the Democratic Party start caring about the Constitution? Or, for that matter the rule of law except for the laws they made? I wish I shared your optimism. There are certainly plenty of people who want things to be "fair" even if they don't always like the results, but IMO they're no longer a majority. A lot of them also get their news, and thus their preconceptions of "fairness" from the MSM. Take a look at Covid-19. The message is that it is selfish to go out during a pandemic, even if that's what it takes to keep your job. We're releasing felons and locking up people who've violated unconstitutional stay-at-home orders. We're told that it isn't "fair" to expose felons to the risks of prison, so we need to let them go. And it isn't "fair" to let people go out, so we arrest them. Watch the movie "Thank you for Smoking" (good movie, BTW). How many times does the primary character actually *lie*? How many times does he convince people of something that isn't true? Or, rather, how many times does he steer people into convincing *themselves* of something that isn't true? I do understand your point but a lot of the reporting by the MSM is from the bubble. The confirmation bias of the media is really bad and effectively much much worse while they all sit in their basements. Even supposedly 'fair and balanced' Fox spends a lot of their time replaying output from the MSM bubble - indeed I think that there is more of an audience for CNN/MSDNC via replays by Fox than people that actually watch them. The next 3 months will decide the election and it all depends on whether the virus influenza like will come back for a second bite or will like the previous corona virus SARS and MERS before it just stop**. If the pandemic just stops then a lot of politicians (and medics) will be left flat footed. SARS in particular back in 2005 just stopped and NIH/CDC dropped their corona virus vaccine development. The real urgency that the vaccine producers have is that they know the probability is that the virus infections will just stop and their market will vanish. So be prepared for the Fauci's to be saying yes we know there are no more cases but it will be even worse when we get another wave this winter..next spring.... next........till everybody stops listening **The fact that this SARS-CoV-2 virus became a worldwide pandemic unlike the previous corona virus epidemics seems to support the 'gain of function' group which is what UNC Chapel Hill was researching before Fauci moved the research to Wuhan |
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Post by Ratty on May 19, 2020 23:52:58 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on May 20, 2020 0:52:49 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on May 29, 2020 20:04:02 GMT
Well Said Mr President.
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Post by missouriboy on May 30, 2020 3:03:55 GMT
The allegory here seems to expand even as we speak. Cities that have been sucking down the blue pills are now burning down. The magic must be fading. |
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Post by missouriboy on May 31, 2020 0:31:29 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 2, 2020 13:14:21 GMT
An interesting juxtaposition of 'tweets'
There is more to this than just an opportunistic riot. It far too well organized and now internationally organized. These things take money - international money to organize. Apparently there are trucks dropping off pallets of bricks at points around New York just before the 'riots' start.
It is coming just after a worldwide lock-down that destroyed the jobs of the kinds of people that will go out to riot and kept them enclosed for 8 weeks.
So someone really wants to try to get Trump to lose the election. Their desperation is showing too
There are now no attempts to hide the media bias or the 'social networks' bias.
This will have the effect of cementing Trump support that he has, it may actually increase his support from independents - peaceful protests would have been more efficient at unseating Trump. Rioters looting supermarkets, shooting police, petrol bombing small businesses and police precincts, with the tacit support and/or craven weakness of the Democrat governor/mayor - are showing what lawlessness really looks like. So this is 'Democrat lawlessness writ large'. They really want to stop any economic recovery.
It has always been said about Trump that he hits back twice as hard. I think the blue states have mishandled this one.
The questions are:
1. Who are the people doing the funding who are so desperate internationally to get rid of Trump?
2. Why are those people so desperate to get rid of Trump?
I suspect we may see federal counter domestic terrorism arrests from the 'community organizers' up to the financiers and imprisonment in some remote hard facility - with immediate impounding of all funds (imagine the impact on a billionaire of suddenly no money) rapid legal action completing by October with sentencing.
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 4, 2020 10:09:43 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 4, 2020 10:29:07 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 4, 2020 14:43:27 GMT
Who paid for all this and planned it out.....
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