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Post by missouriboy on Feb 12, 2021 7:46:08 GMT
Stonehenge may be a rebuilt Welsh stone circle, new research showsA team of archaeologists, led by Mike Parker Pearson of University College London, has unearthed Britain’s third-largest stone circle in the Preseli Hills of western Wales that they believe was dismantled, moved 175 miles to England's Salisbury Plain and rebuilt as Stonehenge, according to research to be published Friday in Antiquity, a peer-reviewed journal of archaeology. abcnews.go.com/International/stonehenge-rebuilt-welsh-stone-circle-research-shows/story?id=75802690
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Post by nautonnier on Feb 12, 2021 11:39:03 GMT
Stonehenge may be a rebuilt Welsh stone circle, new research showsA team of archaeologists, led by Mike Parker Pearson of University College London, has unearthed Britain’s third-largest stone circle in the Preseli Hills of western Wales that they believe was dismantled, moved 175 miles to England's Salisbury Plain and rebuilt as Stonehenge, according to research to be published Friday in Antiquity, a peer-reviewed journal of archaeology. abcnews.go.com/International/stonehenge-rebuilt-welsh-stone-circle-research-shows/story?id=75802690 While a lot will be made of this by Welsh Nationalists, while the mountains existed Wales did not. The Stonehenge creators needed somewhere that would be circular and with unobstructed views of a low horizon for plotting the risings/settings of moon, Sun, planets and stars. The Welsh site may have been a false start perhaps due to the hills. The real Stonehenge site was prototyped as a circle of wooden posts That were then replaced by 'service pack 1' of smaller stones. At the time there were several competing sites Ayebury has a circle of stones www.nationaltrust.org.uk/avebury/features/avebury-stone-circles-and-henge  Callanish was another site of standing stones on the Isle of Lewis in the Hebrides (top left of Scotland). Research is coming up with all sorts of WTF is it for? answers... phys.org/news/2019-12-ancient-secret-stone-circles-revealed.html So step back a little - why, in neolithic times when just surviving was a lot of effort were people so concerned with the Sun, moon and stars and their passage across the sky that they would waste energy building astronomy sites? |
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Post by gridley on Feb 12, 2021 13:41:54 GMT
So step back a little - why, in neolithic times when just surviving was a lot of effort were people so concerned with the Sun, moon and stars and their passage across the sky that they would waste energy building astronomy sites? When the margin of survival is thin, weather plays a part. Now of course we know *now* that the heavenly bodies have no effect on things on Earth. Like... the tides. Or the climate. Only human-produced CO2 can do that. There can't possibly be any correlation between the position of the stars and... the right time of the year to plant crops. Nope. Stop investigating natural phenomena! You might become a scientist and actually insist on evidence for things! Trust us, there was no election fraud and there are 33 genders. Because we said so. There are a lot of false steps on the road of discovery. People used to cheerfully risk their lives on that road. Now the Powers That Be risk other people's lives to prevent discovery. Maybe we were better off building stone circles. |
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 12, 2021 16:06:49 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Feb 12, 2021 17:41:43 GMT
Yes the 'ancients' were extremely interested in the stars and planets. Mind you without light pollution they would have been a lot more visible. But it does not explain how many of the 'ancients' studying the heavens were interested in the rather diminutive constellation of the Pleiades. I read somewhere that the possibility was that there had been a comet/meteorite/meteor swarm that appeared in the Pleiades and so a more continual watch was kept on that area of sky so not to be caught again. |
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Post by nonentropic on Feb 12, 2021 18:08:33 GMT
Comets move, meteorites can have an "origin", but your observation about Pleiades is correct even in the distant and SH portion of the world we have a new public holiday to celebrate Matariki, yes Pleiades which is so close to the Ecliptic that it is visible for most of the year at some time.
How this could possibly mean anything is extraordinary.
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Post by Ratty on Feb 12, 2021 18:09:16 GMT
Stonehenge may be a rebuilt Welsh stone circle, new research showsA team of archaeologists, led by Mike Parker Pearson of University College London, has unearthed Britain’s third-largest stone circle in the Preseli Hills of western Wales that they believe was dismantled, moved 175 miles to England's Salisbury Plain and rebuilt as Stonehenge, according to research to be published Friday in Antiquity, a peer-reviewed journal of archaeology. abcnews.go.com/International/stonehenge-rebuilt-welsh-stone-circle-research-shows/story?id=75802690 I have it on good authority that Cathbad's wife didn't like the stones where they were. True story ....  |
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Post by nonentropic on Feb 12, 2021 18:11:20 GMT
serious people!!
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 12, 2021 18:57:12 GMT
Stonehenge may be a rebuilt Welsh stone circle, new research showsA team of archaeologists, led by Mike Parker Pearson of University College London, has unearthed Britain’s third-largest stone circle in the Preseli Hills of western Wales that they believe was dismantled, moved 175 miles to England's Salisbury Plain and rebuilt as Stonehenge, according to research to be published Friday in Antiquity, a peer-reviewed journal of archaeology. abcnews.go.com/International/stonehenge-rebuilt-welsh-stone-circle-research-shows/story?id=75802690 I have it on good authority that Cathbad's wife didn't like the stones where they were. True story .... Stranger things have been attributed to women. A cleaning frenzy is a wonder to behold.  |
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 12, 2021 19:08:51 GMT
So step back a little - why, in neolithic times when just surviving was a lot of effort were people so concerned with the Sun, moon and stars and their passage across the sky that they would waste energy building astronomy sites? When the margin of survival is thin, weather plays a part. Now of course we know *now* that the heavenly bodies have no effect on things on Earth. Like... the tides. Or the climate. Only human-produced CO2 can do that. There can't possibly be any correlation between the position of the stars and... the right time of the year to plant crops. Nope. Stop investigating natural phenomena! You might become a scientist and actually insist on evidence for things! Trust us, there was no election fraud and there are 33 genders. Because we said so. There are a lot of false steps on the road of discovery. People used to cheerfully risk their lives on that road. Now the Powers That Be risk other people's lives to prevent discovery. Maybe we were better off building stone circles. Somewhere along the line, we went from circle to quadrangle. Probably a real story there. Or I could just make one up. |
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 12, 2021 23:07:04 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Feb 13, 2021 4:46:32 GMT
Interesting. They always try to make a point of the orientation of the entrance of these 'tombs' and what the entrance was pointing towards. Perhaps I show a military bias here - I would be more interested in what the entrance was pointing away from. It does seem that there was a period in prehistory where the humans were expending a huge amount of effort burying themselves and at the same time setting up complex astronomical calculators. " People will beg the mountains, ‘Fall on us,’ and plead with the hills, ‘Bury us.’". Having spent some 'happy days' in such 'shelters' that is a fair description from someone without a mental understanding of back-hoes and bulldozers. Many many such 'tombs' are found in all areas of the world; dug with varying degrees of sophistication. The people who dug them obviously had significant concern about some kind of danger from the skies. To a level that they would expend significant efforts to create tombs that would not be cheap to create these days. |
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 13, 2021 18:37:01 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 14, 2021 6:59:30 GMT
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Post by acidohm on Feb 14, 2021 9:39:13 GMT
I'm not saying it was Aliens....but it was Aliens..
Ancient monuments get more and more mind-blowing the more you look.
Walking past some dry wall guys as there are some on site (its next to Blenheim Palace, land is owned by estate)
Nice fellows, very calm and methodical individuals...many hours of stone chipping goes into making stones fit to make a nice dry boundry wall for a £1m house....
Started asking them if they'd heard of the dry wall in peru, 60 tonne boulders, multiple sides, fit together so paper won't fit in the gaps.
They were quite interested, I told them they were built 100's if not 1000's of years ago and that in all that time, here we are now with small stones and gaps.
I ran before they could throw any!
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