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Post by walnut on Jan 24, 2019 5:10:12 GMT
I've got an itch to go back and explore some more, but when I see those temperature readings on the map I always have second thoughts. I think I'd like to see the Pilbara and Kimberly areas, and find one of those 1/2 ounce gold nuggets.
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Post by Ratty on Jan 24, 2019 6:52:41 GMT
I've got an itch to go back and explore some more, but when I see those temperature readings on the map I always have second thoughts. I think I'd like to see the Pilbara and Kimberly areas, and find one of those 1/2 ounce gold nuggets. April -> October is not too bad in most of the country. That's when we travel and we usually avoid the coast. There is lots to see inland and the people are nicer.
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Post by blustnmtn on Feb 2, 2019 13:52:37 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 2, 2019 15:15:33 GMT
It's amazing that we survived back before we had all these "professionals" telling us what would surely kill us.
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Post by Ratty on Feb 3, 2019 1:50:09 GMT
Over the years, I have read many reports suggesting that cold is up to twenty times more deadly than warmth. Does anyone know of some solid research to back that up?
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Post by blustnmtn on Feb 3, 2019 2:16:16 GMT
Over the years, I have read many reports suggesting that cold is up to twenty times more deadly than warmth. Does anyone know of some solid research to back that up? Hatchet Jack in Jeremiah Johnson!
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Post by sigurdur on Feb 3, 2019 4:10:26 GMT
Over the years, I have read many reports suggesting that cold is up to twenty times more deadly than warmth. Does anyone know of some solid research to back that up? There was some in the Lancet some time ago.
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Post by Ratty on Feb 3, 2019 4:33:04 GMT
[ Snip ] Hatchet Jack in Jeremiah Johnson! Not frozen solid, Blue, solid research.
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Post by Ratty on Feb 3, 2019 4:44:05 GMT
Over the years, I have read many reports suggesting that cold is up to twenty times more deadly than warmth. Does anyone know of some solid research to back that up? There was some in the Lancet some time ago. You're worth more money, Sig. Mortality risk attributable to high and low ambient temperature: a multicountry observational studyFindings We analysed 74 225 200 deaths in various periods between 1985 and 2012. In total, 7·71% (95% empirical CI 7·43–7·91) of mortality was attributable to non-optimum temperature in the selected countries within the study period, with substantial differences between countries, ranging from 3·37% (3·06 to 3·63) in Thailand to 11·00% (9·29 to 12·47) in China. The temperature percentile of minimum mortality varied from roughly the 60th percentile in tropical areas to about the 80–90th percentile in temperate regions. More temperature-attributable deaths were caused by cold (7·29%, 7·02–7·49) than by heat (0·42%, 0·39–0·44). Extreme cold and hot temperatures were responsible for 0·86% (0·84–0·87) of total mortality.
Interpretation Most of the temperature-related mortality burden was attributable to the contribution of cold. ...............
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Post by nautonnier on Feb 3, 2019 14:58:03 GMT
There was some in the Lancet some time ago. You're worth more money, Sig. Mortality risk attributable to high and low ambient temperature: a multicountry observational studyFindings We analysed 74 225 200 deaths in various periods between 1985 and 2012. In total, 7·71% (95% empirical CI 7·43–7·91) of mortality was attributable to non-optimum temperature in the selected countries within the study period, with substantial differences between countries, ranging from 3·37% (3·06 to 3·63) in Thailand to 11·00% (9·29 to 12·47) in China. The temperature percentile of minimum mortality varied from roughly the 60th percentile in tropical areas to about the 80–90th percentile in temperate regions. More temperature-attributable deaths were caused by cold (7·29%, 7·02–7·49) than by heat (0·42%, 0·39–0·44). Extreme cold and hot temperatures were responsible for 0·86% (0·84–0·87) of total mortality.
Interpretation Most of the temperature-related mortality burden was attributable to the contribution of cold. ...............There are some more stats here: A list of reports from UK Office of National Statistics www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/excesswintermortalityinenglandandwales/previousReleasesAND Excess winter mortality in Europe: a cross country analysis identifying key risk factors Free
J D Healy
Author affiliations Abstract
Objective: Much debate remains regarding why certain countries experience dramatically higher winter mortality. Potential causative factors other than cold exposure have rarely been analysed. Comparatively less research exists on excess winter deaths in southern Europe. Multiple time series data on a variety of risk factors are analysed against seasonal-mortality patterns in 14 European countries to identify key relations.....
...Conclusions: High seasonal mortality in southern and western Europe could be reduced through improved protection from the cold indoors, increased public spending on health care, and improved socioeconomic circumstances resulting in more equitable income distribution.jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784AND National Health Statistics Report Deaths Attributed to Heat, Cold, and Other Weather Events in the United States, 2006–2010 .... Results and Conclusions—During 2006–2010, about 2,000 U.S. residents died each year from weather-related causes of death. About 31% of these deaths were attributed to exposure to excessive natural heat, heat stroke, sun stroke, or all; 63% were attributed to exposure to excessive natural cold, hypothermia, or both; and the remaining 6% were attributed to floods, storms, or lightning"
www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr076.pdf
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Post by glennkoks on Feb 3, 2019 15:20:05 GMT
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Post by glennkoks on Feb 3, 2019 15:31:02 GMT
I would agree with the study. I live in South Texas where heat can be oppressive. But to the best of my knowledge I have never been close to dying from it. But working as a commercial fisherman I did fall off my boat once stacking crab traps in February and almost succumbed to hypothermia before I was rescued sometime later treading water. I think I was within 10 maybe 15 mins of not being able to tread water anymore. Had that happened in August I could have done the backstroke home without much danger.
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Post by Ratty on Feb 3, 2019 22:20:43 GMT
Thanks everyone ..... you're all worth more money. Information to be used in discussion in another place.
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Post by sigurdur on Feb 4, 2019 0:43:46 GMT
Two timer 😂
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Post by Ratty on Feb 4, 2019 6:46:16 GMT
There will be no attribution, Sig. Trust me, they won't know who you are. PS: BTW, can I have your address and phone number ... just in case.
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