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Post by sigurdur on Apr 26, 2011 3:20:52 GMT
LOL! Aside from the factual deficiencies, could anyone imagine someone actually apply that logical fallacy in a formal debate and expect to get a way with it? The debate team would kick them out.
Magellan, they would never MAKE the debate team.
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Post by thermostat on Apr 26, 2011 3:36:53 GMT
LOL! Aside from the factual deficiencies, could anyone imagine someone actually apply that logical fallacy in a formal debate and expect to get a way with it? The debate team would kick them out. Magellan, they would never MAKE the debate team. sigudur, Sorry, you simply are wrong about climatology. Check out the scientific literature. It is fascinating to watch denialists defend their position. sigurdur, how do you explain that 97% of the people who understand this subject the best agree AGW is real? sigurdur? 97%! wow! when does one ever see that sort of consensus. Some global conspiracy... You think? |
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 26, 2011 3:39:53 GMT
LOL! Aside from the factual deficiencies, could anyone imagine someone actually apply that logical fallacy in a formal debate and expect to get a way with it? The debate team would kick them out. Magellan, they would never MAKE the debate team. sigudur, Sorry, you simply are wrong about climatology. Check out the scientific literature. It is fascinating to watch denialists defend their position. sigurdur, how do you explain that 97% of the people who understand this subject the best agree AGW is real? sigurdur? 97%! wow! when does one ever see that sort of consensus. Some global conspiracy... You think? thermostat: I will only mention one name........Alfred.............tetonics. Yep....that 97% is really convincing. And in examing that 97% number which is bantied about......you will find that it is not accurate either. At least not in the context that you are trying to portray it. |
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 26, 2011 3:42:41 GMT
LOL! Aside from the factual deficiencies, could anyone imagine someone actually apply that logical fallacy in a formal debate and expect to get a way with it? The debate team would kick them out. Magellan, they would never MAKE the debate team. sigudur, Sorry, you simply are wrong about climatology. Check out the scientific literature. It is fascinating to watch denialists defend their position. sigurdur, how do you explain that 97% of the people who understand this subject the best agree AGW is real? sigurdur? 97%! wow! when does one ever see that sort of consensus. Some global conspiracy... You think? No thermostat......not a global conspiracy......global ignorance in the science field concerning climate. Just as I do in my farming.....if all my neighbors are planting wheat because that is what everyone else is doing...and all the market folks tell us that wheat is going to be the best crop.....welllllll......I don't plant any. And ya know what? That has worked out veryyyyy well for me. Consensus means nothing.....pat each other on the back enough to all feel good and be wrong again. |
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 26, 2011 3:46:34 GMT
Thermostat:
I will describe myself as not of the lemming group..........fair enough?
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 26, 2011 3:47:58 GMT
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Post by magellan on Apr 26, 2011 3:48:18 GMT
Sigurdur, wow! that is quite an accusation. Can you tell us forum members why you make this assertion? Please elaborate. Is your knowledge of issues with the surface temperature record so sparse you have to ask the question in that manner? magellan, What question with the surface temperature record do you have? But more broadly, could you frame your 'objectionism' in light of recent observed arctic melting, stratospheric cooling, increasing ocean heat content, global glacial decline, rising sea levels, and other indicators of human impact on climate which you are so determined to deny? Sigurdur answered quite elegantly for me which is much appreciated. See tstat, you are trying to BS folks here that have been following these subjects since you were still in diapers or longer. There are multiple problems with the surface station network. It can't be expected that drones like you are much interested in knowing what they are. P.S. I'm waiting for the link you lied about me about concerning current Arctic conditions. Also, provide evidence the stratosphere is cooling and that human activity is responsible for it. It is about time you pony up to the bar and start producing. |
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Post by thermostat on Apr 26, 2011 3:51:08 GMT
sigudur, Sorry, you simply are wrong about climatology. Check out the scientific literature. It is fascinating to watch denialists defend their position. sigurdur, how do you explain that 97% of the people who understand this subject the best agree AGW is real? sigurdur? 97%! wow! when does one ever see that sort of consensus. Some global conspiracy... You think? thermostat: I will only mention one name........Alfred.............tetonics. Yep....that 97% is really convincing. And in examing that 97% number which is bantied about......you will find that it is not accurate either. At least not in the context that you are trying to portray it. Here is a useful paper in PNAS; "Expert credibility in climate change" www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/06/22/1003187107.abstract |
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Post by magellan on Apr 26, 2011 4:15:28 GMT
thermostat: I will only mention one name........Alfred.............tetonics. Yep....that 97% is really convincing. And in examing that 97% number which is bantied about......you will find that it is not accurate either. At least not in the context that you are trying to portray it. Here is a useful paper in PNAS; "Expert credibility in climate change " www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/06/22/1003187107.abstractLet's guess, you only found that "paper" by vigorously search Google Scholar and not from a blog you won't acknowledge most of your information comes from.  More cherry picking statistical naughtiness by climate scientists published in a biased grey journal. What do you know about Stephen Schneider, one of the authors? Even Spencer Weart, AGW prognosticator extraordinaire says the "paper" is junk. It is meant for zombies who don't question Authority, nothing more. Again tstat, what is it about this you don't understand? Why are climate scientists, the "97%", wrong so often? The "consensus" said the hockey stick was good science  Would you mind linking to the data concerning stratospheric cooling you claim is occurring? |
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Post by thermostat on Apr 26, 2011 4:24:13 GMT
More cherry picking statistical naughtiness by climate scientists published in a biased grey journal. What do you know about Stephen Schneider, one of the authors? Even Spencer Weart, AGW prognosticator extraordinaire says the "paper" is junk. It is meant for zombies who don't question Authority, nothing more. Again tstat, what is it about this you don't understand? Why are climate scientists, the "97%", wrong so often? The "consensus" said the hockey stick was good science Would you mind linking to the data concerning stratospheric cooling you claim is occurring? Magellan, Please elaborate. How are the 97% of people who know the most about this science wrong, but you,Magellan, are right? What is it that all of these really smart and dedicated people understand that is actually not correct? And, what support do you, Magellan, have that you are the true obscure bright shining light? Magellan, I've read your posts. Give me a break. You don't know diddly about physics and how it applies to heat transfer. Really! |
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Post by thermostat on Apr 26, 2011 4:27:43 GMT
More cherry picking statistical naughtiness by climate scientists published in a biased grey journal. What do you know about Stephen Schneider, one of the authors? Even Spencer Weart, AGW prognosticator extraordinaire says the "paper" is junk. It is meant for zombies who don't question Authority, nothing more. Again tstat, what is it about this you don't understand? Why are climate scientists, the "97%", wrong so often? The "consensus" said the hockey stick was good science Would you mind linking to the data concerning stratospheric cooling you claim is occurring? Magellan, Please elaborate. How are the 97% of people who know the most about this science wrong, but you,Magellan, are right? What is it that all of these really smart and dedicated people understand that is actually not correct? And, what support do you, Magellan, have that you are the true obscure bright shining light? Magellan, I've read your posts. Give me a break. You don't know diddly about physics and how it applies to heat transfer. Really! Magellan, Remember the "Fish Productivity Paper"? You claimed that it was the basis for an unknown natural cycle of global temperatures. Remember Magellan? You got it all figured out, right? |
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Post by magellan on Apr 26, 2011 4:28:57 GMT
More cherry picking statistical naughtiness by climate scientists published in a biased grey journal. What do you know about Stephen Schneider, one of the authors? Even Spencer Weart, AGW prognosticator extraordinaire says the "paper" is junk. It is meant for zombies who don't question Authority, nothing more. Again tstat, what is it about this you don't understand? Why are climate scientists, the "97%", wrong so often? The "consensus" said the hockey stick was good science Would you mind linking to the data concerning stratospheric cooling you claim is occurring? Magellan, Please elaborate. How are the 97% of people who know the most about this science wrong, but you,Magellan, are right? What is it that all of these really smart and dedicated people understand that is actually not correct? And, what support do you, Magellan, have that you are the true obscure bright shining light? Magellan, I've read your posts. Give me a break. You don't know diddly about physics and how it applies to heat transfer. Really! You said the stratosphere is cooling. Prove it. Have you read opposing comments on that paper? We have. That you don't check to see if the paper was done correctly or honestly shows you are nothing but a drone. |
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Post by magellan on Apr 26, 2011 4:31:02 GMT
Magellan, Please elaborate. How are the 97% of people who know the most about this science wrong, but you,Magellan, are right? What is it that all of these really smart and dedicated people understand that is actually not correct? And, what support do you, Magellan, have that you are the true obscure bright shining light? Magellan, I've read your posts. Give me a break. You don't know diddly about physics and how it applies to heat transfer. Really! Magellan, Remember the "Fish Productivity Paper"? You claimed that it was the basis for an unknown natural cycle of global temperatures. Remember Magellan? You got it all figured out, right? LINK TO THE POST. I'm calling you a liar and you are putting words in my mouth. It is approaching the time where your shenanigans will be reported to the admin. |
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Post by thermostat on Apr 26, 2011 4:32:04 GMT
Magellan, Please elaborate. How are the 97% of people who know the most about this science wrong, but you,Magellan, are right? What is it that all of these really smart and dedicated people understand that is actually not correct? And, what support do you, Magellan, have that you are the true obscure bright shining light? Magellan, I've read your posts. Give me a break. You don't know diddly about physics and how it applies to heat transfer. Really! You said the stratosphere is cooling. Prove it. Have you read opposing comments on that paper? We have. That you don't check to see if the paper was done correctly or honestly shows you are nothing but a drone. Well, this is well known in the literature. Amazing of you to question it, but no suprise I guess. I'll dig it out if you insist. |
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Post by magellan on Apr 26, 2011 4:35:39 GMT
You said the stratosphere is cooling. Prove it. Have you read opposing comments on that paper? We have. That you don't check to see if the paper was done correctly or honestly shows you are nothing but a drone. Well, this is well known in the literature. Amazing of you to question it, but no suprise I guess. I'll dig it out if you insist. You have been asked three times now to provide evidence the stratosphere is cooling. Where is it? |
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