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Post by goldbuster1 on May 16, 2010 13:23:10 GMT
goldbuster1: According to your theory, co2 should dwell at 1" or less. Since trees seem to think it is a bit higher, that proves your theory wrong. It is that plain and simple. Emperical observations sir. 0.03 % of Earth atmosphere(36,000 ft) is higher than 1 inch 129.6 inch +/- 11 ft, stagnant (Lab) Diffusion is lateral due to CO2 weight, so it will act like a river bed flowing down a valley, or stay in a hole like lakes. Vegetation path reflect this in alpine condition PS: sigudur dont tell me you are starting to feel the true-believer syndrome and cant admit something that goes against deep rooted beliefs?
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Post by hunter on May 16, 2010 14:19:52 GMT
sigurdur, Just walk away.
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Post by goldbuster1 on May 16, 2010 15:25:07 GMT
Funny how Stomata, the "breathing pores" of a leaf are found mostly underneath the leaf, maybe the Plants knows more about CO2 molecular properties than the skeptic tank.
PS Im not saying that skeptics (CO2 believers) are dumber than vegetables...
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Post by sigurdur on May 16, 2010 16:33:49 GMT
goldbuster1: If you knew anything about plants you would know why the stomata are on the underside of the leaft. It is because of rain, spores etc. Ya see, things fall out of the sky and the open stomata is a source of infection.
Your response that co2 is in rivers does not answer how tree leaves can do photosynthisis. After all, all the co2 is an inch from the ground or on the ground because of its atomic density nature.
So, being the trees live, it completely destroys your hypothosis. Case closed.
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Post by goldbuster1 on May 16, 2010 23:40:34 GMT
You said 1 inch from the ground, I say up to 11 ft in a stagnant environment.
What does destroy my hypothesis, your 1 inch? How?
CO2 is behaving like a flow of water streaming down, not CO2 in rivers...
Are you reading my posts?
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Post by sigurdur on May 17, 2010 1:54:49 GMT
11 feet now. Well, the cottonwoods in my shelter belts have no leaves that low. According to your hypothosis, they would be dead. Once again.....case closed.
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Post by goldbuster1 on May 17, 2010 13:16:04 GMT
In a stagnant environment yes, everything higher than the atmosphere concentration of CO2 in height would not be able to get to the CO2 bellow. It is assessed as an example to 11 ft based on a 36000 ft atmosphere formula.
Earth climate is not a stagnant-Lab environment and different dynamics push the CO2 upwards. Humidity rise air quickly and push CO2 upwards, winds and low-high pressure are moving the heavy CO2 up and down.
It is improbable that CO2 is able to reach 12000ft on a simple draft of wind and settle in higher concentration than sea level. Thus Hawaii samples are Volcanic CO2 running down the volcano
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Post by excalibur on Jul 9, 2010 14:38:17 GMT
"ultimate" proof...
Well optimum closed system growing CO2 ppm rate is 1500ppm And yes blowers need to be placed at the bottom of the plants to push the CO2 up to the leafs.
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