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Post by curiousgeorge on Jan 2, 2012 20:46:09 GMT
Green and organic, environmentally friendly. The green times reports. Do you happen to know if US based operations like this qualify for farm subsidies? It looks more like a industial/factory operation than a farm. Which in fact it is, I suppose. Might be something to look at for Congress when the next farm bill comes up.
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Post by sigurdur on Jan 2, 2012 20:50:16 GMT
Vegtables, etc are not eligable for any type of subsidy.
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Post by trbixler on Jan 4, 2012 2:32:32 GMT
Mr. Greens is a SUV but little people have these. "Taxpayers' Leaf: Four Recharging Stops Needed to Go 180 Miles" "Only problem was, the Leaf’s charge dropped more rapidly than promised. In what has to be a public relations disaster for Nissan, Smith’s EV was unable to travel no farther than 55 miles on any leg of the trip – and for the most part, much less. The company, and its government backers, proclaimed the Leaf was “built to go 100 miles on a charge” (large print), with a footnoted disclaimer (small print) that it travels shorter distances (like, 70 miles) if the air conditioning or the heater is used. Turns out even that was an exaggeration." nlpc.org/stories/2011/12/29/taxpayers-leaf-four-recharging-stops-needed-go-180-miles
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Post by curiousgeorge on Jan 4, 2012 13:25:44 GMT
The real world never cooperates with fantasies. I wonder if the Nissan dealer will give him his money back?
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Post by trbixler on Jan 4, 2012 17:11:40 GMT
Why the $7500 tax credit? "Chevy Volt misses first-year sales target" " Buyers receive a $7,500 federal tax credit for buying an electric car with a battery as large or larger than the Chevy Volt battery. But because of the cost of large batteries, electric cars still have a significantly higher price tag than conventional cars. The Volt price starts at $39,145, the Nissan Leaf starts at about $35,000, and Ford's Focus Electric costs just under $40,000. The full $7,500 tax credit is available for each. " news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-57352046-54/chevy-volt-misses-first-year-sales-target/
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Post by curiousgeorge on Jan 4, 2012 22:07:04 GMT
TRbixler: People need to remove themselves from the paradigm that the only way to obtain what they need/want is to involve middlemen and govt leeches. There are other ways. Bartering is a growing and viable alternative for many things. Cut out the middlemen and the taxman. Deal direct.
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Post by magellan on Jan 5, 2012 2:39:55 GMT
nlpc.org/stories/2011/12/29/taxpayers-leaf-four-recharging-stops-needed-go-180-milesOnly problem was, the Leaf’s charge dropped more rapidly than promised. In what has to be a public relations disaster for Nissan, Smith’s EV was unable to travel no farther than 55 miles on any leg of the trip – and for the most part, much less. The company, and its government backers, proclaimed the Leaf was “built to go 100 miles on a charge” (large print), with a footnoted disclaimer (small print) that it travels shorter distances (like, 70 miles) if the air conditioning or the heater is used. Turns out even that was an exaggeration.
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Post by trbixler on Jan 5, 2012 3:27:31 GMT
I wonder if Chinese will get the $7500 tax credit as cash. Mr. Green exports first the technology then the jobs. "GM deal moves electric car development to China -- a 'shakedown'?" "General Motors agreed in Shanghai today to develop an electric vehicle platform with longtime Chinese partner SAIC. It effectively moves GM's future electric vehicle development to China. Unclear is whether this would also lead to assembly of future EVs for the U.S. market in China." content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2011/09/gm-cuts-china-electric-car-deal----a-china-shakedown/1
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Post by trbixler on Jan 6, 2012 4:04:36 GMT
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Post by magellan on Jan 6, 2012 4:20:03 GMT
The Progressive's definition of capitalism (crony socialism in reality); they call it public "investments": www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/16192Each Chevy Volt sold thus far may have as much as $250,000 in state and federal dollars in incentives behind it – a total of $3 billion altogether, according to an analysis by James Hohman, assistant director of fiscal policy at the Mackinac Center for Public Policy.
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Post by Pooh on Jan 6, 2012 5:41:38 GMT
Crony capitalism is not capitalism, free enterprise or liberty; it is more akin to Corporatism. Let us call it by its proper name.Anonymous. 2011a. Corporate nationalism. Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. August 30. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_nationalism———. 2011b. Corporate statism. Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. October 14. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Statea.k.a. Corporatism. Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_stateMuch appreciated by the Progressive movement. Even FDR thought it was a good idea for a while. Popular by many nations, old and new. Here is a hint.
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Post by trbixler on Jan 11, 2012 0:43:46 GMT
Mr. Green shows true colors. "A Fine for Not Using a Biofuel That Doesn’t Exist" "WASHINGTON — When the companies that supply motor fuel close the books on 2011, they will pay about $6.8 million in penalties to the Treasury because they failed to mix a special type of biofuel into their gasoline and diesel as required by law. But there was none to be had. Outside a handful of laboratories and workshops, the ingredient, cellulosic biofuel, does not exist. In 2012, the oil companies expect to pay even higher penalties for failing to blend in the fuel, which is made from wood chips or the inedible parts of plants like corncobs. Refiners were required to blend 6.6 million gallons into gasoline and diesel in 2011 and face a quota of 8.65 million gallons this year." www.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/business/energy-environment/companies-face-fines-for-not-using-unavailable-biofuel.html?_r=1
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Post by trbixler on Jan 12, 2012 14:16:45 GMT
Mr. Green does not forget his friends. "Bankrupt Solyndra seeking to pay bonuses" "Now seems an unlikely time for handing out bonuses at bankrupt Solyndra LLC, but that’s the plan of company attorneys intending to dole out up to a half-million dollars to persuade key employees to stay put. Nearly two dozen Solyndra employees could receive bonuses ranging from $10,000 to $50,000 each under a proposal filed by Solyndra’s attorneys in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware." p.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/11/bankrupt-solyndra-seeking-to-pay-bonuses/
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Post by throttleup on Jan 12, 2012 18:26:30 GMT
Report: Cape Wind unlikely to be done by mid-2015 bostonherald.com ^ | 01/12/2012 | Associated Press New England’s power grid manager says it’s unlikely the long-planned Cape Wind offshore wind project will be producing electricity by mid-2015, raising the prospect of more delays in a project beset by them. Grid operator ISO New England made the determination about Cape Wind in a Jan. 3 report, explaining why it rejected Cape Wind’s bid to participate in a power market it oversees. The wind project was proposed in 2001 and has faced obstacles that have repeatedly forced its timeline to be extended. And last May, its efforts to win a federal loan guarantee were stalled partly because of concerns about its readiness. A Cape Wind official says the ISO report is just an opinion and it’s very likely Cape Wind will be running by June 2015. www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1395386&pos=breaking
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Post by trbixler on Jan 14, 2012 14:19:33 GMT
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