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Post by curiousgeorge on Apr 4, 2012 2:19:02 GMT
Breakingitdown: Wisdom is the top rung of a very tall ladder, and there are no shortcuts. You have a long climb ahead of you.
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Post by trbixler on Apr 4, 2012 2:21:27 GMT
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Post by breakingitdown on Apr 4, 2012 12:40:32 GMT
there are always short cuts you just have to risk everything while looking like a mad man - Le Parkour is my lifestyle
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Post by trbixler on Apr 5, 2012 2:12:36 GMT
Being Green is really nice if you are part of the government elite or the management of a failing green company. "Bad battery “karma” – Taxpayers’ Green ‘Investment’ in Battery Company Withers" "Massachusetts-based A123 received more than $279 million in grants from the Department of Energy, most of it used to refurbish two plants in Livonia and Romulus, Mich., for the production of EV batteries. The company laid off 125 factory workers in November, lost $257.7 million in 2011 (including an $11.6 million write-down of its stake in Fisker), and announced it would spend $55 million to fix the defective batteries it delivered to Fisker and other customers. Meanwhile A123’s top executives received big raises and inflated parachutes should the company change ownership." wattsupwiththat.com/2012/04/04/battery-karma-taxpayers-green-investment-in-battery-company-withers/#more-60731
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Post by trbixler on Apr 5, 2012 20:44:29 GMT
Mr. Green keeps his promise skyrocket energy prices and spend your taxes. Even Henry Ford knew he had to keep the model T affordable so that workers could enjoy them. Mr. Green wants you to bask in his greenness while waiting for the savings? Want to bet if a Volt bought today is still serviceable in 26 years? "Savings come slowly for hybrid, electric car owners" "Buyers who choose Nissan's all-electric Leaf ($28,421) over its approximate gas-powered equivalent, Nissan's Versa ($18,640), will likely wait nearly 9 years until they break even, according to a new report by The New York Times that examines the cost of fuel efficiency. For drivers of the Chevrolet Volt ($31,767), the wait is even longer— 26.6 years." www.bizjournals.com/nashville/blog/2012/04/savings-come-slowly-for-hybrid.html
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Post by breakingitdown on Apr 6, 2012 5:41:49 GMT
PLEASE im like stressing myself out losing sleep over this like when i mention Nikola Telsa in a green energy forum especially under global warming since tesla know in the 1800's that we were poisoning our planet that EVERYONE SHOULD jump in talking about how amazing and important this man is and his work. like how UNBELIEVABLy EFFICIENT IT IS come on please? like is everyone here to old and stubborn to want to give in to the truth? talk about the bite of green energy...people who can help dont even want to wake up to the 100+ year old truth. i love you all i mean no disrespect i just am trying hard to pull u guys into the important topic of Nikola Teslas green energy ideas
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 6, 2012 11:38:42 GMT
breakingitdown: Telsa was a very smart man. And it would be great if someone could reconstruct what you think he had, but never materialized.
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Post by trbixler on Apr 7, 2012 15:38:58 GMT
The really smart Mr. Green and his Nobel department at work. Well it is the "cause" that counts and that is giving away tax monies. "April 7, 2012 Energy Dept. offers prize to create mobile apps that already exist" "The Department of Energy announced Thursday a $100,000 prize for software developers to come up with mobile applications to tell consumers how much energy they are using. But there’s already an app for that. A quick scan of the iTunes and Android markets shows nearly two dozen existing applications that accomplish the same purpose — helping users keep track of their energy consumption at home." Read more: dailycaller.com/2012/04/05/energy-dept-offers-prize-to-create-mobile-apps-that-already-exist/#ixzz1rMxNokVP
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Post by trbixler on Apr 8, 2012 13:32:38 GMT
Mr. Green's agenda 21 squander the tax dollars at work. "Taxpayers' $1.4B 'Investment' in Nissan EV May Make Volt Look Good by Comparison" "Nissan North America, Inc. – a subsidiary of its Japanese parent – is the beneficiary of a $1.4 billion Advanced Technology Vehicle Manufacturing loan from the U.S. Department of Energy, to convert a plant in Smyrna, Tenn. to produce the Leaf and batteries for it. The project’s promoters say the alterations will lead to 1,300 new jobs, enabling Nissan to produce up to 150,000 Leafs and 200,000 battery packs per year, which will lead to the all-important avoidance of 204,000 tons of carbon dioxide emissions – or so they say. But there’s just one problem: Sales of the Leaf are not much better than the Volt’s have been, and lately have been much worse. In 2011 Chevrolet sold 7,671 of its plug-in Volt, whose range is extended with the help of a small gasoline tank. Nissan sold 9,674 of the purely electric Leaf last year. So far through the end of March this year GM has delivered 4,095 Volts, while only 1,733 Leafs have been sold." nlpc.org/stories/2012/04/06/taxpayers-14b-investment-nissan-ev-may-make-volt-look-good-comparison
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Post by sigurdur on Apr 9, 2012 2:49:28 GMT
Was this a grant.......a loan....or what?
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Post by trbixler on Apr 10, 2012 15:01:53 GMT
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Post by trbixler on Apr 11, 2012 2:14:57 GMT
Cannot burn it here so ship it where they can. Mr. Green's skyrocket our energy prices. "Coal exports surge to highest level since 1991" "BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) -- U.S. coal exports reached their highest level in two decades last year as strong demand from Asia and Europe offered an outlet for a fuel that is falling from favor at home. U.S. Department of Energy data analyzed by The Associated Press reveal that coal exports topped 107 million tons of fuel worth almost $16 billion in 2011. That's the highest level since 1991, and more than double the export volume from 2006. Much of the increase went to slake the thirst of power-hungry markets in Asia, where rapid development has sparked what mining company Peabody Energy calls a "global coal super cycle" that heralds renewed interest in the fuel" hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_COAL_SURGING_EXPORTS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-04-10-14-27-17
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Post by curiousgeorge on Apr 19, 2012 15:49:13 GMT
Wanna be green? Pony up some big bucks. Ford Focus EV: According to Alan Mullaly, the battery pack for this $23,000 ICE car adds $12-$15K to the base price. I can buy a hell of a lot of gas for $15,000! About 3750gals, which in my car would carry me 112,000 miles. You can figure that's what the other EV makers are adding on also. One of the auto industry's most closely guarded secrets, the enormous cost of batteries for electric cars, has spilled out.
Speaking at a forum on green technology, Ford Motor Co. CEO Alan Mulally indicated battery packs for the company's Focus electric car costs between $12,000 and $15,000 apiece.
"When you move into an all-electric vehicle, the battery size moves up to around 23 kilowatt hours, [and] it weighs around 600 to 700 pounds," Mulally said at Fortune magazine's Brainstorm Green conference in California.
"They're around $12,000 to $15,000 " for a type of car that normally sells for about $22,000, he continued, referring to the price of a gasoline-powered Focus. "So, you can see why the economics are what they are."
Ford is currently promoting its $39,200 Focus EV at events around the country. It has a 23 kilowatt-hour battery pack. A Ford spokeswoman said Mulally's comments were designed to provide an indication of the car's battery costs.
Based on the price range that Mulally indicated, Dearborn, Mich.-based Ford appears to pay between $522 and $650 a kilowatt-hour for its electric-vehicle batteries. In the past, auto makers and battery makers have been reluctant to disclose the cost per kilowatt hour. Analysts have made projections that battery costs are between $500 and $1,000 per kilowatt-hour.
The US Department of Energy, as part of its efforts to help promote plug-in hybrid- and fully-electric vehicles, has set a goal of lowering the cost of batteries to $300 a kilowatt-hour by next year. The DOE has helped to fund battery plants in the US to install the capacity, and ideally lower the cost of batteries.
Ford hasn't provided projections for anticipated sales of its EV, but has made the point that it doesn't need to achieve high volumes because it is building the Focus EV on the same line as the gasoline-powered version. It sold just 10 to fleet customers late last year and now is building more of the vehicles at its plant in Wayne, Mich.
Other auto makers including General Motors Co. and Fisker Automotive Inc. have struggled with high prices and slow initial sales of their battery-powered vehicles, but have committed to building new models.
Read more: www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/04/19/ford-electric-car-battery-pack-costs-12000-15000/?intcmp=features#ixzz1sVADcegD
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Post by julianb on Apr 20, 2012 9:16:23 GMT
breakingitdown, There are plenty of devices that Tesla made or proposed on the net that you could replicate at minimum expense, like the atmospheric energy collectors to charge batteries, by plate or aeriel. Give it a go, you might just strike lucky. No, I'm not being sarcastic, there are plenty of over unity devices working. Getting them to market is another matter.
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Post by breakingitdown on Apr 20, 2012 22:13:47 GMT
thanks julianb your recognition means a lot. surprisingly hard to get people to warm to this subject when it comes to green energy. yeah fighting the imperial market empire is impossible without the help of aliens and angels it seems. ive just been searching like a mad man on google bing youtube forums blogs tumblr stumbleupon for Nikola Tesla stuff and the more i found out the more i just feel like life and freedom were stolen from us. just cant wait until someone makes a handheld apparatus that uses something like rotating magnetic fields and oscillating frequencies to capture high energy particles/waves coming from stars stellar black holes magnetar flares neutron star flares medium size blake holes supernovas and collisions of any combination of them and the grand daddy of all free energy blazars/quasars erupting and colliding supermassive black holes. the energy from those massive universal powerhouses rains on us 24/7 day or night. would truly end our energy plight. only one man saw that and he was Nikola Tesla...and maybe the people who build ancient pyramids ; )
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