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Post by nonentropic on Oct 15, 2011 0:54:59 GMT
Byz you are joking in typical British style 2 warm day makes a hot year. It's been freezing.
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 15, 2011 2:35:12 GMT
Don't need a book as this is somewhat well understood. The RH of the atmosphere is extremely important in the amount of heat contained within that atmosphere.
Temperature is though what keeps being mentioned in the news and in the forecasts for the public. Are we being misled by people of science? The general public can easily understand plain temperature. However, we both know that the heat capacity of the atomosphere is very dependant on the amount of H20 in the atmosphere. Science, when calibrating heat units retained must use all available data to be credible.
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Post by nautonnier on Oct 16, 2011 17:28:20 GMT
Don't need a book as this is somewhat well understood. The RH of the atmosphere is extremely important in the amount of heat contained within that atmosphere.
Temperature is though what keeps being mentioned in the news and in the forecasts for the public. Are we being misled by people of science? The general public can easily understand plain temperature. However, we both know that the heat capacity of the atomosphere is very dependant on the amount of H20 in the atmosphere. Science, when calibrating heat units retained must use all available data to be credible. As a rough rule of thumb the heat required to raise a volume of air at maximum humidity by one degree C is around 10 times the amount of heat required to raise the same volume of dry air one degree C. It is called enthalpy see www.engineeringtoolbox.com/enthalpy-moist-air-d_683.htmlSo Atmospheric temperature does not equal Atmospheric Heat Content. And yes the climate 'scientists' are making no attempt to correct the misapprehension of the general public. The real measure of the heat being retained within the Earth system is the ocean heat content which is directly proportional to temperature.
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Post by dontgetoutmuch on Oct 17, 2011 17:25:30 GMT
It snowed all day at my house yesterday. I woke up to two inches that actually stuck. So yesterday was the last time I will see my lawn until April. I miss it already. I would have to say that while summer and fall were cooler then normal, the snow at my house was right on schedule.
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Post by boxman on Oct 27, 2011 13:59:37 GMT
So far been a nice spring here in Norway. In last week we even had near 20c in southern parts of western Norway and yesterday up to 18c in southern parts of northern Norway.
Hopefully we wont get punished when winter really hits, which is often the case when we have a long fall.
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Post by trbixler on Oct 28, 2011 13:46:56 GMT
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Post by trbixler on Oct 28, 2011 23:59:53 GMT
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Post by trbixler on Oct 29, 2011 0:50:09 GMT
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Post by trbixler on Oct 29, 2011 3:30:11 GMT
Now Mr. Green has the CO2 in control. Just in time to prevent death from hockey sticks. "A VERY chilling Halloween: New England swept by early winter wonderland as the East Coast braces itself for snowstorm which could hit 60 MILLION people Earliest New York City snow predicted since the Civil War Snow already falling in Massachusetts Parts of Connecticut could get a foot of snow this weekend Since record keeping began NYC has never had an inch of snow in October www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054719/North-east-braces-October-snow-inches-predicted-areas.html#ixzz1c8bYKIrk
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 29, 2011 16:43:15 GMT
In the upper Midwest of the USA we are still enjoying the fall effects of a La Nina type cycle. Still somewhat warm, but that will end soon as it always does.
Till it ends tho.........sure am enjoying this warmth.
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Post by trbixler on Oct 29, 2011 20:53:45 GMT
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Post by trbixler on Oct 30, 2011 1:33:19 GMT
More AGW Autumn "More Than a Million Lose Power as Snow Coats Region" "Yet snow was falling. Not a light, mischievous form of frozen precipitation, either, but heavy, wet flakes driven on the gusts of an angry weather system barreling across the Northeast from the Atlantic Ocean on Saturday, cracking sturdy limbs and toppling power lines as it went. It also shattered records, some more than a century old, and elicited the kinds of warnings from public officials that are not usually heard until deep in winter. " www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/us/northeast-braced-for-noreaster-and-early-snow.html
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 30, 2011 1:48:07 GMT
Tiz a bad one.......and an early one. Harbinger of things to come I am afraid.
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Post by trbixler on Oct 31, 2011 13:15:51 GMT
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 31, 2011 13:31:19 GMT
The real question is.......was Al Gore in New England over the weekend?
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