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Post by numerouno on Dec 5, 2011 14:48:35 GMT
We have enjoyed the La Nina warmth, but I do believe that has now expired.
Any clue as to who murdered La Nina, this Monday?
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Post by dontgetoutmuch on Dec 5, 2011 18:39:46 GMT
Well.
Here in (Anchorage) Alaska we enjoyed the 3rd snowiest November on record. (Missed 2nd by .1" and snowiest by 6") To console all of the warimies I would like to tell them that warming caused increased evaporation which led to the near record snowfall. But that is simply not true, as November was more then 8 degrees F COLDER then normal! Brrrr! The poor warmies are going to have to scramble to explain why they are pulling a chicken little about a warming world, that is not warming. Poor things.
On a more personal note... After a cold and snowy November, December 1 and 2 added another 14" of snow at my house, but the temps had warmed into the 30s (f) and this snow was heavy and wet. On Saturday night we experienced hurricane force winds for over 10 hours, the highest gust recorded was 118MPH!!! Needless to say it was hard to sleep. Then Sunday morning a little after 8:00 A.M., a cornice, on the mountain above us, let go and a very large avalanche just missed our house. It actually intersected the berm built above the house for that very reason. Ah life in Alaska.
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Post by throttleup on Dec 5, 2011 20:33:10 GMT
Well. Here in (Anchorage) Alaska we enjoyed the 3rd snowiest November on record. (Missed 2nd by .1" and snowiest by 6") To console all of the warimies I would like to tell them that warming caused increased evaporation which led to the near record snowfall. But that is simply not true, as November was more then 8 degrees F COLDER then normal! Brrrr! The poor warmies are going to have to scramble to explain why they are pulling a chicken little about a warming world, that is not warming. Poor things. On a more personal note... After a cold and snowy November, December 1 and 2 added another 14" of snow at my house, but the temps had warmed into the 30s (f) and this snow was heavy and wet. On Saturday night we experienced hurricane force winds for over 10 hours, the highest gust recorded was 118MPH!!! Needless to say it was hard to sleep. Then Sunday morning a little after 8:00 A.M., a cornice, on the mountain above us, let go and a very large avalanche just missed our house. It actually intersected the berm built above the house for that very reason. Ah life in Alaska. Now I understand why you "don't get out much!" Puts our view of "bad weather" to shame! Stay safe! Cheers!
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Post by numerouno on Dec 5, 2011 22:08:06 GMT
I'm half-tempted to start a snowplough thread:
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 6, 2011 1:35:57 GMT
We have enjoyed the La Nina warmth, but I do believe that has now expired.Any clue as to who murdered La Nina, this Monday? Prob history numerouno. As a result of La Nina, the upper midwest of the USA usually experiences a dry warm fall. We have had that, and now it appears we are switching from that warmth mode to the cold mode. We also usually get quit a bit of snow and very cold temperatures. The switch as a rule is rather abrupt, which it was last night. There was a 36f degree difference in our nightime temp from one night to the next.
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Post by woodstove on Dec 6, 2011 2:22:27 GMT
Well. Here in (Anchorage) Alaska we enjoyed the 3rd snowiest November on record. (Missed 2nd by .1" and snowiest by 6") To console all of the warimies I would like to tell them that warming caused increased evaporation which led to the near record snowfall. But that is simply not true, as November was more then 8 degrees F COLDER then normal! Brrrr! The poor warmies are going to have to scramble to explain why they are pulling a chicken little about a warming world, that is not warming. Poor things. On a more personal note... After a cold and snowy November, December 1 and 2 added another 14" of snow at my house, but the temps had warmed into the 30s (f) and this snow was heavy and wet. On Saturday night we experienced hurricane force winds for over 10 hours, the highest gust recorded was 118MPH!!! Needless to say it was hard to sleep. Then Sunday morning a little after 8:00 A.M., a cornice, on the mountain above us, let go and a very large avalanche just missed our house. It actually intersected the berm built above the house for that very reason. Ah life in Alaska. Good berm!
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Post by graywolf on Dec 6, 2011 15:36:42 GMT
At least you're not facing the coastal erosion this 'none warming world' seems content to throw at your locale? As for us , mild and damp.Better than the past two Arctic amplification dominated winters. Any Ideas why Hudson Bay refuses to freeze this year? It's been cold enough surely yet it still tracks last years exceptionally warm plot???
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Post by trbixler on Dec 6, 2011 15:39:15 GMT
34F in PDR this morning.
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Post by throttleup on Dec 6, 2011 20:44:05 GMT
Any Ideas why Hudson Bay refuses to freeze this year? It's been cold enough surely yet it still tracks last years exceptionally warm plot??? Graywolf, I have no idea why Hudson Bay is being so stubborn. It's probably either: a) Global warming. b) Body heat from all the polar bears in the water. c) Underwater Hudson Bay volcanoes. d) Natural variability of some sort.
I suspect, however, that it will freeze soon enough to keep the polar bears alive. But first, we should check with the Canadians, eh?Hudson Bay. Outlook for December 1 to 15. The ice over the extreme northern section will continue to spread southward to cover the northern half during the second week of December. At that time, young ice will be present over the northern section and along the southwestern shore. New with some grey ice will develop over western James Bay. ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca/prods/FECN15CWIS/20111115000000_FECN15CWIS_0006129221.txtWell, there you go. The northern ice is heading south and the southern ice is heading north. They'll probably meet at some point in the middle. Everything's cool.I don't find the image particularly alarming. Should I?
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Post by throttleup on Dec 6, 2011 20:46:30 GMT
numerouno: I'm half-tempted to start a snowplough thread:
numerouno, Those look like very cool toys and probably a very welcome sight at certain times of the year...
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Post by woodstove on Dec 7, 2011 1:31:42 GMT
At least you're not facing the coastal erosion this 'none warming world' seems content to throw at your locale? As for us , mild and damp.Better than the past two Arctic amplification dominated winters. Any Ideas why Hudson Bay refuses to freeze this year? It's been cold enough surely yet it still tracks last years exceptionally warm plot??? Dear me, an eroding coast. Remember when coastlines were stable?
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Post by sigurdur on Dec 7, 2011 2:44:19 GMT
At least you're not facing the coastal erosion this 'none warming world' seems content to throw at your locale? As for us , mild and damp.Better than the past two Arctic amplification dominated winters. Any Ideas why Hudson Bay refuses to freeze this year? It's been cold enough surely yet it still tracks last years exceptionally warm plot??? Dear me, an eroding coast. Remember when coastlines were stable? Woodstove: I am a bit long in the tooth.......but......I can't for the life of me remember when coastlines were stable. Can you expound on that timeframe please?
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Post by magellan on Dec 7, 2011 4:51:57 GMT
Dear me, an eroding coast. Remember when coastlines were stable? Woodstove: I am a bit long in the tooth.......but......I can't for the life of me remember when coastlines were stable. Can you expound on that timeframe please? It was in 2005 before the 50 million climate refugees displaced in 2010 by the accelerating sea level rise, mega hurricanes etc. etc. etc. Don't you keep up with the latest science?
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Post by woodstove on Dec 7, 2011 10:43:24 GMT
Dear me, an eroding coast. Remember when coastlines were stable? Woodstove: I am a bit long in the tooth.......but......I can't for the life of me remember when coastlines were stable. Can you expound on that timeframe please? Hey Sigurdur, You and I are on the same page on this. The combination of ocean storms and sand has never made, and will never make, the fantasy of a permanent unchanging coastline come to fruition. Nor, by the way, has sea level ever been stable, nor can it be. Expecting it to be so is pure anti-science. Harold
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Post by Ratty on Dec 7, 2011 13:31:29 GMT
Anyone who has lived on a surf beach in Southern Queensland (Australia) for more than just a few years will ask "What is a stable coastline? How do I get one?"
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