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Post by cuttydyer on May 29, 2013 9:15:45 GMT
Karlox, Poor forecast for Spain (+ France, Portugal, Germany and Austria). It's interesting to note that Meteo state that weak solar activity is the cause. If you've been looking forward to spending your Spanish summer sunning yourself by the pool, don’t pack away your winter clothes just yet.
France’s main weather channel has announced that there is a 70 percent chance of this summer being cold and wet across Spain, France, Portugal, Germany and Austria.
Cold maritime fronts and weak solar activity during the winter months have not only given us a chillier Spanish spring than normal, they’re also going to make the summer months unusually dreary and rainy.
According to Meteo, June and July are only likely to have short periods of summer heat which will in turn bring heavy storms in August.
September and October are likely to register higher average temperatures and less rain, the French weather agency announced on Monday.
The year without summer, 1816, is not an old wives’ tale.
Overcast skies and cold temperatures across the northern hemisphere led to severe crop failures and food shortages in France, England, Ireland and the US during the summer months of that year.Link
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Post by karlox on May 29, 2013 18:55:05 GMT
Karlox, Poor forecast for Spain (+ France, Portugal, Germany and Austria). It's interesting to note that Meteo state that weak solar activity is the cause. If you've been looking forward to spending your Spanish summer sunning yourself by the pool, don’t pack away your winter clothes just yet.
France’s main weather channel has announced that there is a 70 percent chance of this summer being cold and wet across Spain, France, Portugal, Germany and Austria.
Cold maritime fronts and weak solar activity during the winter months have not only given us a chillier Spanish spring than normal, they’re also going to make the summer months unusually dreary and rainy.
According to Meteo, June and July are only likely to have short periods of summer heat which will in turn bring heavy storms in August.
September and October are likely to register higher average temperatures and less rain, the French weather agency announced on Monday.
The year without summer, 1816, is not an old wives’ tale.
Overcast skies and cold temperatures across the northern hemisphere led to severe crop failures and food shortages in France, England, Ireland and the US during the summer months of that year.LinkHope that british people and rest of europeans planning to visit Spain this summer wouldn´t pay much attention on what French Met service dared to forecast so well in advance! Being tourism the only sector is doing well in this economic deep Depression... going for 27% of unemployment rate nowadays... So I find this assumption very daring and bold and somehow irresponsible... though currently we are in fact SO cold for the end of may! Spanish met office didn´t make it for spring seasonal forecast so far either: the said "average" for both temps and precipitations in ALL Iberian Peninsula but we are "enjoying" a very cold season so far most places...
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Post by karlox on May 29, 2013 19:06:58 GMT
Cuttydyer By the way, thanks for the link to The Local (Spain news in english), I´ve found it very interesting from a sociological point of view... shall visit it from now on! Cutty, a shot of scotch Cutty Sark in your honor! Salud!
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Post by karlox on May 29, 2013 19:19:33 GMT
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Post by numerouno on May 29, 2013 20:31:09 GMT
+27C at the Arctic Circle today ... and continuing. from fmi.fi from foreca.fi
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Post by cuttydyer on May 30, 2013 8:46:06 GMT
Karlox, I'll keep my fingers crossed by a fine Spanish Summer.
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Post by flearider on May 30, 2013 8:48:26 GMT
wow off to there for my hols then .. lucky to get to 16 in my part of the uk but I just keep singing that annie song and hope ... The sun'll come out Tomorrow Bet your bottom dollar That tomorrow There'll be sun!
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Post by karlox on May 30, 2013 8:50:39 GMT
So western Europe is getting colder air-masses pumped by North Atlantic Blocking High (moving to UK now) while eastern parts are getting much warmer than average temps... Last night Met news on TV shown 3 different seasonal forecast for Spanish coming summer: 1- From Columbia University (might be a different university, but it was USA): much warmer and hot temps 2- From French met: much colder than usual 3- From Spanish met office: average average average... 3 completely different forecast for same area and period!!! Do they really know what they are talking about?
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Post by cuttydyer on May 30, 2013 8:58:05 GMT
+27C at the Arctic Circle today ... and continuing Finland is certainly benefiting from the current "cool meridional circulation" the NH is currently experiencing: With the "meridional circulation" pattern. The small, weak cells may stagnate over vast areas for many months, bringing unseasonably cold weather on one side and unseasonably warm weather on the other. Droughts and floods become more frequent and may alternate season to season, while the hemisphere as a whole is cooler, individual areas may alternately break temperature and precipitation records at both extremes.
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Post by karlox on May 30, 2013 11:26:03 GMT
+27C at the Arctic Circle today ... and continuing Finland is certainly benefiting from the current "cool meridional circulation" the NH is currently experiencing: With the "meridional circulation" pattern. The small, weak cells may stagnate over vast areas for many months, bringing unseasonably cold weather on one side and unseasonably warm weather on the other. Droughts and floods become more frequent and may alternate season to season, while the hemisphere as a whole is cooler, individual areas may alternately break temperature and precipitation records at both extremes. Could it be determined -with all data gathered from satellite era- any relationship between overall solar activity and this weather pattern as some articles have been pointing out recently?
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Post by cuttydyer on May 30, 2013 12:59:14 GMT
The French ski season, now extended into June:
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Post by magellan on May 30, 2013 15:44:14 GMT
Wasn't the U.S. supposed to continue in a drought this year?
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Post by sigurdur on May 30, 2013 15:57:49 GMT
Karlox: There has been a somewhat well known relationship between solar and placement of the Jet Streams. Note I said relationship, as prior to the 1950's, very little is actually known in regards to the Jets. Models have shown a dramatic response, but take that for what it is worth.
One thing that we do know, it since satellites, etc, the relationship is starting to be explained via the UV ratio of the TSI.
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Post by numerouno on May 30, 2013 22:07:16 GMT
Finland is certainly benefiting from the current "cool meridional circulation" the NH is currently experiencing: Could it be determined -with all data gathered from satellite era- any relationship between overall solar activity and this weather pattern as some articles have been pointing out recently? Some circulation it is as well, as today (May 30th) in Ylitornio, at the Arctic Circle, there was a new all-time May record high, +29C.
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Post by tobyglyn on May 31, 2013 2:57:14 GMT
From the BBC: "This spring is on track to be the coldest for more than 50 years, provisional Met Office figures suggest. This month has seen lower than average temperatures and it has been wetter than usual, forecasters said. The UK's mean temperature for spring - based on figures from 1 March to 28 May - is currently 6C. If conditions stay the same in the last days of May, it will be the coldest spring since 1962, and the fifth coldest since records began in 1910." www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22718944
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