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Post by nautonnier on Oct 26, 2013 14:59:23 GMT
Cutty, Looks like you'll be close to the eye of the storm tomorrow - showing 972 Mb central pressure. Over here the peanut gallery would be getting excited and cheering it on as a 'named storm'. Of course if it was up over the Hebrides it would be 'a little breezy'
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Post by cuttydyer on Oct 26, 2013 16:37:53 GMT
Cutty, Looks like you'll be close to the eye of the storm tomorrow - showing 972 Mb central pressure. Over here the peanut gallery would be getting excited and cheering it on as a 'named storm'. Of course if it was up over the Hebrides it would be 'a little breezy' Certainly going to be breezy & wet - 80mm forecast for Dartmoor. I'm a tad anxious (surrounded by trees & there's a stream 15 yards from the house) but as long as there's no sting in the storms tail (sting jet) we should be fine.
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Post by nonentropic on Oct 26, 2013 21:39:18 GMT
Karlox that map is rubbish look at the surface temperatures under the areas with ice cover how do they measure them and why would they be high as the progress of the ice is running quite close to expected. Maybe Sig can give some insight into the massively high temperature in the great lakes. don't the lakes of the world tend to show an average recent temperature trend. the great lakes are suggesting a summer some 4C above average is that indeed the case, would that not be the topic of the CAGW world if true? sorry folks I think that is a cooked map! With built in bias algorithms undoubtedly peer revued.
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 26, 2013 23:44:16 GMT
nonentropic: Now that you mention it...no....the Great Lakes have not warmed. In fact, this year they are running cold being the spring was so late. Superior, which normally has very little ice, actually had ice last winter........go figure huh?
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 26, 2013 23:46:14 GMT
HOly cow.....I had not bothered to look at the Great Lakes as they are not a weather maker.
Why......I can almost see the steam coming from them........steam I say........
What a bunch of garbage that particular area is. Now that makes me question the whole dog gone map!
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Post by nonentropic on Oct 27, 2013 0:12:18 GMT
thanks Sig and there are other silly things going on in there.
The Baltic should be warm but its only slightly that surprises me.
the seas through and around Alaska are hot and that's with ice ripping down from the north and Siberia way below average for a long time now.
this is a garbage map.
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Post by karlox on Oct 27, 2013 9:45:14 GMT
Karlox that map is rubbish look at the surface temperatures under the areas with ice cover how do they measure them and why would they be high as the progress of the ice is running quite close to expected. Maybe Sig can give some insight into the massively high temperature in the great lakes. don't the lakes of the world tend to show an average recent temperature trend. the great lakes are suggesting a summer some 4C above average is that indeed the case, would that not be the topic of the CAGW world if true? sorry folks I think that is a cooked map! With built in bias algorithms undoubtedly peer revued. But that map and alike (like Weekly Anomaly Chart) do show warmer North Atlantic waters, have been admitted in this thread before as a reference on what´s going on. I actually got the link from WUWT´s
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Post by karlox on Oct 27, 2013 9:48:22 GMT
Previous chart might show that Gulf Stream is wandering closer to Terranova reaching Baffin Island west of Greenland and overiding cold Labrador stream currently missing?
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Post by nonentropic on Oct 27, 2013 20:05:53 GMT
WUWT is a very good site but ultimately they depend on the big funded organizations for data. I think it looks like a bias in data processing. not dissimilar to how the UK gets warm biased weather forecasts from the weather office there. if you look at stock predicting its easiest or more accurate to pick a rise in a stock when the whole market is rising and this is the same in the climate field. The world got hotter from 1979 to 2000 or so, a lot of people picked warming correctly. Problem is its a religion now.
remember the Harvard professor who said "steering a car with the rear vision mirror works great on the straights but prediction is all about seeing the corners in front of you".
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Post by sigurdur on Oct 27, 2013 20:37:52 GMT
That is a very applicable quote
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Post by dresi on Oct 29, 2013 20:08:19 GMT
Well, no winter here so far. It is actually extremely warm in the central Europe with temperatures attacking summer levels.
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Post by glennkoks on Oct 29, 2013 23:19:44 GMT
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Post by flearider on Oct 30, 2013 17:35:24 GMT
lol it was just a storm but because it hit down south it gets hyped ..if it had happened further up north nothing would have been said .. Scotland gets them like that every yr 40-50mph winds with gusts to 80 wales atm is having winds to 63mph and Scotland to 54 ..sunday night will bring the same .. but nothing will be in any paper ..
strange how they pick em .. or is it ....
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Post by Ratty on Oct 31, 2013 6:35:58 GMT
I also read a big storm just hit Britian Good thing it wasn't like the one from 1703: Great Storm of 1703
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Post by karlox on Oct 31, 2013 8:42:56 GMT
I also read a big storm just hit Britian Good thing it wasn't like the one from 1703: Great Storm of 1703From link of Great Storm of 1703 you can tell Fear based politics also applied back in time regarding weather changes (wiki), though instead of carbon tax they´d declared a day of fasting: "The storm (1703) , unprecedented in ferocity and duration, was generally reckoned by witnesses to represent the anger of God—in recognition of the "crying sins of this nation." The government declared 19 January 1704 a day of fasting, saying it "loudly calls for the deepest and most solemn humiliation of our people." It remained a frequent topic of moralizing in sermons well into the nineteenth century"
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