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Post by Andrew on Feb 9, 2014 3:52:59 GMT
It makes no difference at all to the reality you were the sick pervert who played around with me for months on end while you continually lied for months on end. The other sicko was trenberth who tried to make out Mars had no CO2 in the atmosphere! Hmmmm, you must be a maschist after all its you who keeps reviving the topics. This phase change thing was put to rest a long time ago until a few weeks ago when you resurrected it by throwing a bunch of insults around. I think the correct term for what has happened to you is Self-flagellation. The fact is there is at least one person on this board who is unable to think scientifically and when they are challenged they behave in a sadistic perverted manner. I made it perfectly clear what i was talking about with latent heat and yet for 7 months I was told i was saying something I never ever said. The same pervert came up with endlessly comical reasons why the GHE idea was against the laws of physics, in hindsight it is totally obvious it was just a sick perverts game. Never once did I tell any lies and yet this pervert endlessly accused me of changing goal posts and lying. Whoever you are, you behave in a disgusting manner.
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Post by icefisher on Feb 9, 2014 4:21:46 GMT
Hmmmm, you must be a maschist after all its you who keeps reviving the topics. This phase change thing was put to rest a long time ago until a few weeks ago when you resurrected it by throwing a bunch of insults around. I think the correct term for what has happened to you is Self-flagellation. The fact is there is at least one person on this board who is unable to think scientifically and when they are challenged they behave in a sadistic perverted manner. I made it perfectly clear what i was talking about with latent heat and yet for 7 months I was told i was saying something I never ever said. The same pervert came up with endlessly comical reasons why the GHE idea was against the laws of physics, in hindsight it is totally obvious it was just a sick perverts game. Never once did I tell any lies and yet this pervert endlessly accused me of changing goal posts and lying. Whoever you are, you behave in a disgusting manner. Keep in mind that this all started 6 months ago when you attacked me for saying about the release of latent heat what you are saying now.
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Post by Andrew on Feb 9, 2014 4:28:48 GMT
The fact is there is at least one person on this board who is unable to think scientifically and when they are challenged they behave in a sadistic perverted manner. I made it perfectly clear what i was talking about with latent heat and yet for 7 months I was told i was saying something I never ever said. The same pervert came up with endlessly comical reasons why the GHE idea was against the laws of physics, in hindsight it is totally obvious it was just a sick perverts game. Never once did I tell any lies and yet this pervert endlessly accused me of changing goal posts and lying. Whoever you are, you behave in a disgusting manner. Keep in mind that this all started 6 months ago when you attacked me for saying about the release of latent heat what you are saying now. And for 7 months i said the same thing and yet some pervert daily was telling me i was saying something else even though i had to object almost daily that i was not saying that, and I had never ever said that. What kind of pervert behaves like that? The same pervert produced comical reasons why the simple science behind the greenhouse idea was impossible. The same pervert has been lying that I have been a liar for 2 years.
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Post by icefisher on Feb 9, 2014 4:50:22 GMT
Keep in mind that this all started 6 months ago when you attacked me for saying about the release of latent heat what you are saying now. And for 7 months i said the same thing and yet some pervert daily was telling me i was saying something else even though i had to object almost daily that i was not saying that, and I had never ever said that. What kind of pervert behaves like that? The same pervert produced comical reasons why the simple science behind the greenhouse idea was impossible. The same pervert has been lying that I have been a liar for 2 years. nobody is lying you attacked Magellan when he stated a dead body does not warm when you throw a blanket over it. Weeks later you were talking not about the dead body warming but a dead body cooling whose skin warms to the cooler core temperature of the body when you threw a blanket over it. It was plain as day you changed the goal posts as Magellan built them and you attacked what he built! Weeks later you were attacking a strawman, not Magellan's goal posts.
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Post by Andrew on Feb 9, 2014 5:12:23 GMT
And for 7 months i said the same thing and yet some pervert daily was telling me i was saying something else even though i had to object almost daily that i was not saying that, and I had never ever said that. What kind of pervert behaves like that? The same pervert produced comical reasons why the simple science behind the greenhouse idea was impossible. The same pervert has been lying that I have been a liar for 2 years. nobody is lying you attacked Magellan when he stated a dead body does not warm when you throw a blanket over it. Weeks later you were talking not about the dead body warming but a dead body cooling whose skin warms to the cooler core temperature of the body when you threw a blanket over it. It was plain as day you changed the goal posts as Magellan built them and you attacked what he built! Weeks later you were attacking a strawman, not Magellan's goal posts. Liar. It was perfectly clear that a science graduate was never ever saying that a body is going to become hotter when a blanket is placed over it. The identities called Magellan and Icefisher both came up with freakophysics and were totally disinterested in any discussion about the reasons for their ideas being totally stupid. You were the pervert who was talking about the fourth power rule, agreement the naked woman was a good example, agreement the fridge experiment was interesting, and yet mind numbingly comical objections why the fourth power rule was not the reason why backradiaton was totally permissible where in reality you should have realised after 3 weeks of the stupid conversation you were totally muddled up. So it seems to hide your shame you came up with endless stupidity and lies. All any normal person would have said would have been 'oh i misunderstood the concept of backradiation! Obviously i agree with it 100%!!' If a person reads this thread: solarcycle24com.proboards.com/thread/1899/backradiation-argument-rope-dopeIt is totally mind numbing that you behaved as you did. Either you are the thickest auditor of all time or you are a pervert. Since it is not possible for an auditor to have never heard of financial netting you are proven to be a pervert.
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Post by icefisher on Feb 9, 2014 7:02:46 GMT
Liar. It was perfectly clear that a science graduate was never ever saying that a body is going to become hotter when a blanket is placed over it. Then why did you attack Magellan's statement? Why did you attack my statement on latent heat when for 7 months you are alleging its the same as yours. Can you understand why folks might think you are thinking something else? The identities called Magellan and Icefisher both came up with freakophysics and were totally disinterested in any discussion about the reasons for their ideas being totally stupid. Are you saying Magellan's comment that a dead body does not warm when you throw a blanket over it is freakophysics? You have been combing the latent heat archives for weeks looking for some freakophysics from me. How come you haven't posted any?
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Post by icefisher on Feb 9, 2014 7:03:09 GMT
Liar. It was perfectly clear that a science graduate was never ever saying that a body is going to become hotter when a blanket is placed over it. Then why did you attack Magellan's statement? Why did you attack my statement on latent heat when for 7 months you are alleging its the same as yours. Can you understand why folks might think you are thinking something else? The identities called Magellan and Icefisher both came up with freakophysics and were totally disinterested in any discussion about the reasons for their ideas being totally stupid. Are you saying Magellan's comment that a dead body does not warm when you throw a blanket over it is freakophysics? You have been combing the latent heat archives for weeks looking for some freakophysics from me. How come you haven't posted any?
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Post by Andrew on Feb 9, 2014 7:49:30 GMT
Liar. It was perfectly clear that a science graduate was never ever saying that a body is going to become hotter when a blanket is placed over it. Then why did you attack Magellan's statement? Why did you attack my statement on latent heat when for 7 months you are alleging its the same as yours. Can you understand why folks might think you are thinking something else? The identities called Magellan and Icefisher both came up with freakophysics and were totally disinterested in any discussion about the reasons for their ideas being totally stupid. Are you saying Magellan's comment that a dead body does not warm when you throw a blanket over it is freakophysics? You have been combing the latent heat archives for weeks looking for some freakophysics from me. How come you haven't posted any? Liar: No science graduate is going to knowingly claim a dead body gets hotter when a blanket is thrown over it, and no science graduate is ever going to defend such a stupid idea. Liar: I never attacked Magellans statement. Steve made a tongue in cheek comment that it was possible, and i pointed out the surface would get warmer, via a blanket, if the body was recently dead. You and Magellan made freakophysical comments about backradiation. Liar: You just spent 7 months claiming i was saying something i never ever said. Freezing cannot create temperature rises in a cooling body, the farmers are muddled up. Liar: You spent two years deliberately lying just to create as much chaos and misery as you possibly could In all the conversations i have had on this board i have not one single time changed any goal posts at all. And yet month in year out some sick pervert calls me a liar. What kind of sick pervert does that??
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Post by Ratty on Jun 12, 2017 5:59:24 GMT
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Post by nautonnier on Jun 12, 2017 11:27:19 GMT
I was not sure about some of his graphs- his figure 2 seems to show evaporative warming - which will be an artifact of his method.
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Post by acidohm on Sept 20, 2017 18:01:18 GMT
Thought about this last night/this morning. Latent heat is a measure of energy. It is somewhat like potential energy. A rock balanced on the top of a hill has stored energy because of its mass. We know it is there because of the position of the rock and we know what work it can do because of physics. While stationary, it is all potential, measurable, etc. IF the rock never moves, the energy sits there. Latent heat is a measurement of potential energy. The phase change releases that energy OR absorbs energy, depending on the state of the mass. make any sense? I do know that when sprinkling water on orchards etc, the insulation value of the ice is used to help, but the heat released when forming that ice is the primary source of warmth to keep the orchard from freezing for short periods of time. Is THIS where it all started.....ah, such happy memories 🙈
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Post by acidohm on Sept 20, 2017 18:03:40 GMT
I do know that when sprinkling water on orchards etc, the insulation value of the ice is used to help, but the heat released when forming that ice is the primary source of warmth to keep the orchard from freezing for short periods of time. No! Latent heat can never be used for any real-life heating or cooling purpose under no circumstances. Your comparison to potential energy is wrong, as potential energy can be increased/released at will. You can elevate a stone, and drop it at any time from any height. Not so with the phase change energies. They are bound into the molecular forces of the matter and are forces that will ONLY DELAY changes in the temperature of the matter AS LONG AS THE PHASE CHANGE GOES ON! Your orchard water will DELAY the freezing while the freezing is ongoing, but WILL RELEASE NO ENERGY WHATSOEVER WHILE DOING SO! Feeel free to consider this at your leisure. This is completely correct....
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Post by acidohm on Sept 20, 2017 18:07:20 GMT
No! Latent heat can never be used for any real-life heating or cooling purpose under no circumstances. Thats not really so true. Evaporation of water into dry warm air cools the air. Our hot sweaty skin is cooled by evaporation into a dryer environment. A dehumidifier warms the air by removing water. A fohn wind is hot and dry These things however require work. Eg dry air has to be created by some force somewhere to enable cooling to occur later, or moist air has to be cooled by some force and then warmed by some force, for a zero sum action that condenses water, to enable warming to occur. Vapour pressure
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Post by acidohm on Sept 20, 2017 18:08:10 GMT
There we are....all sorted 🖒🖒🖒🖒
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Post by nautonnier on Sept 20, 2017 18:58:20 GMT
There we are....all sorted 🖒🖒🖒🖒 Why I created the new thread ;-)
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