|
Post by missouriboy on Oct 12, 2015 16:12:30 GMT
By the time folks figure out the increased elec prices are killing them, it will be too late to change. Then I suppose that, philosophically, we deserve what we get! On the average as a society that is! No need to stop the resistance however.
|
|
|
Post by flearider on Oct 12, 2015 16:14:12 GMT
yeah ..it will be like living in the uk .. we only use gas for heating .. my elec bill works out at £25-30 per week so that's around $40 avg .. $2000+ per yr .. plus what we use for heating with gas say another $1500
so is this good or bad to you ?
|
|
|
Post by sigurdur on Oct 12, 2015 16:59:29 GMT
|
|
|
Post by missouriboy on Oct 12, 2015 18:56:40 GMT
yeah ..it will be like living in the uk .. we only use gas for heating .. my elec bill works out at £25-30 per week so that's around $40 avg .. $2000+ per yr .. plus what we use for heating with gas say another $1500 so is this good or bad to you ? Here we have a cooling season as well. We're heating and cooling 1800 sq, ft. We have a high-pressure ground-source geothermal heating and cooling system which is all electric w/ a gas furnace backup. My total electric bill (for everything) last year was $1056. Gas (as heating backup and for water heating) was an additional $400 (And that's with a 15 year old that can't ever seem to get out of the shower). So, we're lucky. Lots of people have much higher bills than that. If I thought their policies would do any good, I'd happily ( ) do my part. But, since I'm pretty sure they won't, I intend to scream loudly at every opportunity. Those who do not oppose stupidity have no right to complain when they get gored (pun intended). Of course they will ... and they will whine ... 'we just didn't know'.
|
|
|
Post by acidohm on Oct 15, 2015 12:14:03 GMT
Je suis Phillipe Verdier.
|
|
|
Post by missouriboy on Oct 15, 2015 14:38:47 GMT
Je suis Phillipe Verdier. The New Inquisition will have its pound of flesh. Je suis degoute!!!!
|
|
|
Post by acidohm on Oct 15, 2015 15:22:36 GMT
Je suis Phillipe Verdier. The New Inquisition will have its pound of flesh. Je suis degoute!!!! I'm gonna get a t shirt printed!
|
|
|
Post by missouriboy on Oct 25, 2015 2:08:41 GMT
Environmental Determinism is back. Analyzing data from the World Bank for 166 countries and comparing the results of warm, cool, and average years in each country, researchers found the “ideal” temperature when per capita GDP growth is at its maximum: approximately 13 degrees Celsius. Some of the countries blessed with this average temperature included the U.S., much of Europe, Japan and China, which not by chance are some of the largest economies in the world. Any decrease or increase in the temperature means negative impact on economic growth.www.pulseheadlines.com/climate-change-making-world-productive/9227/
|
|
|
Post by sigurdur on Oct 25, 2015 3:31:04 GMT
Uh huh
|
|
|
Post by flearider on Oct 25, 2015 8:10:39 GMT
isn't that the temp were hypothermia sets in ?
|
|
|
Post by acidohm on Oct 25, 2015 8:49:16 GMT
isn't that the temp were hypothermia sets in ? Fortunately, many millenia ago, someone invented fire and clothes ;-)
|
|
|
Post by nautonnier on Oct 25, 2015 9:28:56 GMT
Environmental Determinism is back. Analyzing data from the World Bank for 166 countries and comparing the results of warm, cool, and average years in each country, researchers found the “ideal” temperature when per capita GDP growth is at its maximum: approximately 13 degrees Celsius. Some of the countries blessed with this average temperature included the U.S., much of Europe, Japan and China, which not by chance are some of the largest economies in the world. Any decrease or increase in the temperature means negative impact on economic growth.www.pulseheadlines.com/climate-change-making-world-productive/9227/This is like averaging the CIE number of the color of cars on an interstate per year. You get a meaningless numbers that you can make unfounded mathematical projections with. What is the 'average' temperature of Chile? A country that is 3000 miles long North South and only a few hundred miles East to West, running from the hot dry desert in the North to cold South Pacific maritime in the South? Does it mean anything? What is the average temperature of California? of UK? What industry provides the bulk of GDP for those countries. How anyone can treat this kind of 'research' seriously is probably a better subject for research.
|
|
|
Post by missouriboy on Oct 26, 2015 3:29:02 GMT
Environmental Determinism is back. Analyzing data from the World Bank for 166 countries and comparing the results of warm, cool, and average years in each country, researchers found the “ideal” temperature when per capita GDP growth is at its maximum: approximately 13 degrees Celsius. Some of the countries blessed with this average temperature included the U.S., much of Europe, Japan and China, which not by chance are some of the largest economies in the world. Any decrease or increase in the temperature means negative impact on economic growth.www.pulseheadlines.com/climate-change-making-world-productive/9227/This is like averaging the CIE number of the color of cars on an interstate per year. You get a meaningless numbers that you can make unfounded mathematical projections with. What is the 'average' temperature of Chile? A country that is 3000 miles long North South and only a few hundred miles East to West, running from the hot dry desert in the North to cold South Pacific maritime in the South? Does it mean anything? What is the average temperature of California? of UK? What industry provides the bulk of GDP for those countries. How anyone can treat this kind of 'research' seriously is probably a better subject for research. When the fish are in a frenzy, they'll bite on anything. Stupidity or the quality of the research matters not if it supports their position. Here they are resurrecting a very 'shallow' variation on Ellsworth Huntington's old theory of environmental determinism and probably don't even know they're doing it. As many scientists, Ellsworth got a little carried away with himself in his later years. He actually did some interesting work in his younger days. 'The Pulse of Asia' is an interesting treatise, based on his archeological work in Central Asia, where he theorized that many of the waves of Central Asian invasions of Europe were actually driven by periodic drought cycles. Michael Mann is not even an intellectual shadow of Huntington, but, like Mann's obsession with CO2 as the all powerful driver of climate, Huntington became obsessed with climate as an all powerful force in the human condition. www.sequoiaparksfoundation.org/2011/historic-people-and-places-ellsworth-huntington/books.google.com/books/about/The_Pulse_of_Asia.html?id=nh0PAAAAYAAJ
|
|
|
Post by missouriboy on Oct 26, 2015 13:46:54 GMT
isn't that the temp were hypothermia sets in ? Fortunately, many millenia ago, someone invented fire and clothes ;-) And welfare! Now that genetic urge to work that apparently peaks at about 13 C can be suppressed with no biological harm. And with air conditioning ... paid for by welfare ... one can now regress to that tropically-induced state of the perpetual nap.
|
|
|
Post by sigurdur on Oct 28, 2015 1:48:28 GMT
|
|